The Flames Expansion Draft Protection/Exposure/Exempt Thread

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

He's a UFA, they can sign him and then they still get to select another one of our unprotected players.

Not if they sign him before the expansion draft in the 48hr window.

http://www.tsn.ca/concerns-about-nhl...merge-1.609388

Specifically, GMs worry that Vegas could take advantage of the 48-hour window before the expansion draft in June to quietly agree to terms on a deal with a pending unrestricted free agent, then wait until July 1 to sign him, so as to pluck another player off a team's roster in the expansion draft.
This would circumvent the rule that if a team loses a free agent to Vegas in that 48-hour free-agent-signing window, it cannot lose another player in the expansion draft. Some GMs worry that veteran GM George McPhee, who wasn't born yesterday, would take advantage of the situation.

[GioforPM]

Not too worried about Stone signing with LV anyway. He wants to be in Calgary.

[Nsd1]

Kulak and Shinkaruk are the only exposed players I would be mildly interested in if I were the Knights.

[ComixZone]

Ferland is the 6th forward, not Brouwer.

The 7th spot will be interesting. If Lazar performs down the stretch here, he'll get the slot. Brouwer can likely be exposed without issue as I'd guess it's fairly unlikely that VGK wants to take on the contract.

[Swayze11]

Yea I think you protect Lazar and Ferland and expose Brouwer.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Ferland is the 6th forward, not Brouwer.

The 7th spot will be interesting. If Lazar performs down the stretch here, he'll get the slot. Brouwer can likely be exposed without issue as I'd guess it's fairly unlikely that VGK wants to take on the contract.

I keep seeing people say this but I also see a lot of people talking about how the Knights have to also hit the cap floor which might possibly make him a touch more palatable from their perspective.

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Ferland is the 6th forward, not Brouwer.

The 7th spot will be interesting. If Lazar performs down the stretch here, he'll get the slot. Brouwer can likely be exposed without issue as I'd guess it's fairly unlikely that VGK wants to take on the contract.

They need to reach the cap floor so they will be selecting some players with less than desirable contracts. That said, since Brouwer was building a home in Calgary prior to free agency, its obvious he wants to be here and it would reflect poorly on the team to expose a player one year after signing him as a UFA. I think Tre sends LV either a mid-round pick or B prospect to not select Ferland, Brouwer or Lazar.

[Otto-matic]

I can't see the Flames exposing Brouwer, it would turn Calgary a UFA blackhole for the team to expose a player 1 year after signing a long term contract.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

I keep seeing people say this but I also see a lot of people talking about how the Knights have to also hit the cap floor which might possibly make him a touch more palatable from their perspective.

That's ok though.

[Backlunds_socks]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

I can't see the Flames exposing Brouwer, it would turn Calgary a UFA blackhole for the team to expose a player 1 year after signing a long term contract.

I don't think so, its course of business.

[shadowlord]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Ferland is a bigger lock for protection than Brouwer

Based on the way Ferland has played, I agree.

However, from what I'm hearing in the media, by exposing Brouwer, Treliving would be admitting that the signing was a mistake. So essentially, Brouwer will be protected for Tre's pride.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

I can't see the Flames exposing Brouwer, it would turn Calgary a UFA blackhole for the team to expose a player 1 year after signing a long term contract.

If a player wanted to avoid that situation, he would need to negotiate a NMC. Brouwer either wasn't concerned or didn't have that leverage. It isn't a blackhole, it is business and players know that. Also, expansion drafts don't happen every year.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

I can't see the Flames exposing Brouwer, it would turn Calgary a UFA blackhole for the team to expose a player 1 year after signing a long term contract.

I agree... but I don't see the Flames exposing Ferland or Lazar now either.

I think the best course of action will be to trade Vegas an asset, or if they sign Engelland instead.

[mrdonkey]

I don't think the Flames, if they do decide to expose Brouwer, would be the only team exposing a recently-signed free agent. It's not like they're going out and trading Brouwer, it's an expansion draft so somebody has to go. It's the nature of the business and I would be very surprised if it had any impact at all on Calgary as a FA destination if he were picked up.

That said, I think the odds are better than even that the Flames either break a deal with Vegas or lose Engelland.

[Backlunds_socks]

How many players per team can LV choose to steal?

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Backlunds_socks

How many players per team can LV choose to steal?

One.

[Backlunds_socks]

Originally Posted by Buff

One.

Lazar will not be the chosen one.

Brouwer will be protected.

[Finger Cookin]

The Lazar acquisition definitely muddies the waters. I think the Flames have to consider exposing a veteran like Brouwer or Frolik and then cutting a deal with Vegas to ensure they're not taken. This is assuming that Ferland and Lazar will be protected.

I'm sure Treliving will be talking with McPhee quite a bit leading up to the expansion draft. That should result in the Flames having a very good sense of what kind of cost would be associated with ensuring Vegas skips an exposed player we want to keep.

[Geeoff]

Since Lazar doesn't have a contract next year, doesn't that mean we don't have to protect him

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Since Lazar doesn't have a contract next year, doesn't that mean we don't have to protect him

No, it doesn't mean that. RFAs have to be protected if they have enough time spent in the league or as a pro. Which Lazar has.