[Signing] Lucic to Oilers 7yrs ($6mil AAV)

[verda13]

Originally Posted by bax

That's out of context. He was saying their defenseman couldn't get the puck up to hall just like they won't be able to get it up to Lucic

He said:

"they don't have defensemen that can get it up to a speedy Taylor Hall..."

But ya, it may be out of context, or just poorly worded. They rest of the crew was snickering when Button mentioned Hall.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

He's too slow to do any real damage to our guys, not to mention I look forward to years of him taking stupid penalties against us!

This was a good tweet by Bruce Arthur:

Deterrence is a nice idea, and Milan Lucic is tough as hell, but Marc Savard's career was ended on a roster that included Lucic and Chara.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Interesting that Montreal offered more money.

They have to with their tax structure.

[pacde]

I dont know, 1.5 more than Brouwer (plus a couple yrs and NMC)

if I were to choose, its not that much different
Lucic is younger and I think he is a much better player despite the pile on plus he has that size and a nasty side ... maybe more than Brouwer

Its the NMC that makes it close otherwise Id be a bit envious

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

This was a good tweet by Bruce Arthur:

Deterrence is a nice idea, and Milan Lucic is tough as hell, but Marc Savard's career was ended on a roster that included Lucic and Chara.

Quoting myself - but Lucic was also on the ice when Savard got cheapshotted and his career ended.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by sun

Is the contract really that bad? I was hoping for worse tbh.

Dude its really bad. Its long, its expensive it has a full 7 year NMC so they can't get rid of his contract easily.

He's a 20-25 goal guy who's slower then dirt going uphill. The Oilers have become a fairly slow team over the last few years.

As well if JP doesn't make the team, it doesn't matter because ready or not they have to play him or else they have a pretty weak top 6 McDavid or not.

This was a panic move by Chia, there's no question that he was feeling pressure after getting his underwear torn off in the Hall trade.

The Oilers still have a underwhelming blueline without a true top pairing guy. Their top 6 in my mind is weaker today then it was last week, and they're heading into cap hell.

They're still going to have to over pay for a defenseman and if they pick up Barrie they add another 6 million dollar guy who might not be worth 6 million.

Chia has almost well and truly borked the Oilers within the next 3 years, and this contract didn't help.

[Erick Estrada]

Terrible deal. Ha ha ha ha. They are immediately better but this will cost them one of their best young players in the coming years.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by sun

Is the contract really that bad? I was hoping for worse tbh.

That stats guy on the fan frames things nicely. There aren't good and bad contracts when they are signed. It's about risk. This contract has a ton of risk

[browna]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Terrible deal. Ha ha ha ha. They are immediately better but this will cost them one of their best young players in the coming years.

Probably but I bet they don't care and consider those guys lost causes and would trade another one if they can do it this offseaon. Lowe hand tied that organization so tightly with his shady tactics that only getting bent over can start to get them out now. McClellan rants last year made that clear without a doubt.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by verda13

He said:

"they don't have defensemen that can get it up to a speedy Taylor Hall..."

But ya, it may be out of context, or just poorly worded. They rest of the crew was snickering when Button mentioned Hall.

Awe poor oilers fan. I hate to break it to you but they were snickering because he's right. They were laughing at the oilers ineptitude.

[JiriHrdina]

The Oilers basically have a two-year window to accomplish a couple things
- Try to be competitive when McD is still on his entry
- Convince him not to sign a massive offer sheet in 2 years.

This contract is as much about that latter point than the former

[Locke]

So I've been watching, but late to CP.

This was stupid. All around stupid.

There was all of one team that offered him this contract. The Edmonton Oilers. All 29 other teams didnt even entertain a contract this ludicrous.

It'll probably work out for a bit, $6M isnt outrageous. But this is Khabibulin/Ference/Ridiculous Hossa/Jagr offers all over again.

"We got him! Granted, we had to pay more than anyone else by a huge margin, but we got him!"

At the same time they shipped out Taylor Hall a 24 year old ~70 point winger on a $6M/7 to bring in a 28 year old ~50 point winger?

Sure, Larsson is in there too but....Larsson. Solves few to no Oiler needs.

Say what you want about Chiarelli, but this is no different than MacT and Lowe's 'Big Game Hunting.'

Absolutely no awareness on how to build a team.

[Superflyer]

Now I really have to change my a avitar. I did it when he was a Bruin and was just to lazy once he left. Now it has to be a priority.

[devo22]

I kind of hope the Devils sign Jason Demers now. Can you imagine the Devils coming out of this with Hall/Demers while the Oil are stuck with Lucic/Larsson? Lol

[nik-]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

The Oilers basically have a two-year window to accomplish a couple things
- Try to be competitive when McD is still on his entry
- Convince him not to sign a massive offer sheet in 2 years.

This contract is as much about that latter point than the former

Yeah, the McDavid ELC is their window now, I'm not sure they realize it yet. They really might as well go all in on a D men and go for it the next two years.

[Rick M.]

I recall rumours about a chronic wrist problem when he was in Boston but I don't remember hearing about this in L.A.

[N-E-B]

I really think this could have been a Brad Richards-like scenario for Edmonton. One of those deals they would have looked back on in two years and say "best thing never to have happened to us".

Oh well.

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by Locke

So I've been watching, but late to CP.

This was stupid. All around stupid.

There was all of one team that offered him this contract. The Edmonton Oilers. All 29 other teams didnt even entertain a contract this ludicrous.

Other than Montreal, which apparently offered more $$$

[tvp2003]

Chia gonna chia.

[sun]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

That stats guy on the fan frames things nicely. There aren't good and bad contracts when they are signed. It's about risk. This contract has a ton of risk

That's true. Not so bad for the first year or two, but all downhill from there. Post-apex player, in Feaster parlance. I admit I actually haven't watched him play too much the past couple of years.