View Poll Results: Who should the Flames hire?
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Bruce Boudreau
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66.89% |
Guy Boucher
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1.16% |
Dave Cameron
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0.50% |
Marc Crawford
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2.00% |
Mike Yeo
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1.16% |
Someone else
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28.29% |
05-03-2016, 03:21 PM
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#121
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
Why would anyone expect things to happen so quickly when Treliving literally said the process starts now?
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Probably cause everyone knows the process didn't actually start this morning and that was just media speak.
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05-03-2016, 03:22 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burnitdown
Probably cause everyone knows the process didn't actually start this morning and that was just media speak.
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Bob Hartley was the coach of the Flames last night. Literally nothing else had leaked about Treliving already looking or interviewing for a coach.
Sometimes it's not media speak.
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05-03-2016, 03:23 PM
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#123
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Bob Hartley was the coach of the Flames last night. Literally nothing else had leaked about Treliving already looking or interviewing for a coach.
Sometimes it's not media speak.
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We don't know what happens behind closed doors. Treliving could of easily spoke with Bruce over the weekend and kept it all tight lipped.
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05-03-2016, 03:28 PM
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#124
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Why would anyone expect things to happen so quickly when Treliving literally said the process starts now?
What does "Brian Burke & Bob Murray both love Dallas Eakins." even mean? That's just purposefully fishing for reactions.
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Yeah, whole lot of nothing there. Just a few tweets earlier this guy inferred that Boudreau would be headed to Calgary.
That all being said, regardless of who the Flames end up with we'd all be a little foolish to think that they hadn't had conversations of some kind with a coach or two before the announcement this morning.
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05-03-2016, 03:32 PM
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#125
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kukkudo
We don't know what happens behind closed doors. Treliving could of easily spoke with Bruce over the weekend and kept it all tight lipped.
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If he has to ask for Anaheim's permission to talk to Boudreau, then we'd know if he had at least asked for that permission.
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05-03-2016, 03:32 PM
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#126
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Bob Hartley was the coach of the Flames last night. Literally nothing else had leaked about Treliving already looking or interviewing for a coach.
Sometimes it's not media speak.
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This just furthers my point. Treliving has been contemplating a coaching change for the past while (presumably with other higher-ups like Burke) with no leaks during that month-long process. What makes you think there'd be leaks about him secretly meeting with potential coaching candidates to gauge their interest??
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05-03-2016, 03:35 PM
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#127
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Upstate NY
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Any chance the Flames take a look at Phil Housley?
He's currently an assistant coach with Nashville. There's the obvious history of him as a player with the Flames, but he's also heavily involved with USA Hockey, along with Brian Burke.
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05-03-2016, 03:44 PM
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#128
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Franchise Player
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Brian Burke was on the Bob McCowan show this afternoon. I only heard bits and pieces as I was occupied, so I couldn't give a run-down of what was talked about.
I did hear after Brian Burke went off the air that they were talking about Hawerchuk being a very promising up and coming coach. I am all for new blood, but I don't know a single thing about how good or not of a coach Hawerchuk is - but it seemed they think he would get some consideration.
My votes?
Darryl Sutter is at the top of that list if he becomes available.
Nate Leaman - He has done wonders everywhere he goes in the NCAA. I really do think he is on the cusp of possible being the next great 'Babcock-type' coach.
I don't really like Boudreau - yes, he has a great regular season record, but those are some pretty damn stacked teams he coached, and outside of the regular season, he just doesn't get it done. I think a 'teaching' coach would be of benefit (Leaman) or a coach with a very good track record (Darryl Sutter).
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05-03-2016, 03:48 PM
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#129
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Everybody says that Boudreau only coached power house teams.
Is that really true with Anaheim? They are an internal budget team that picked 6th overall when he took over, and he whipped them to 4 straight division titles.
He had Getzlaf and Perry.....but everybody else on that team (besides Kesler who was added in a trade) blossomed under him. Beleseky, Bonino, Lindholm, Vatanen, Silfverberg, Maroon, Despres, both goalies. Plus it's not as if Getzlaf, Perry and Kesler wilted under his watch either.
I dunno, I don't think he gets enough credit for what Anaheim did the last 4 seasons.
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Of course not. Many people toss out the ''he's never won anything'' phrase, while conveniently ignoring his 8 division titles, 1 president trophy, and countless championships in other leagues. Those people are probably the same people who think Joe Thornton ''hasn't won anything'' because he has no cup, yet ignore his trophy case. Same with Ovechkin "Dude hasn't won anything  ".
Calgary hasn't won a division title in 10 years. I'd be overjoyed with one, let alone a president's trophy.
Fact is, Bruce Boudreau has by far the best resume of everyone on the poll. People can pretend they've watched a million other off-the-board coaches, but fact is we have a great sample size with Boudreau. So what if he's lost a bunch of game 7s? The Flames aren't even close to being in one. As Burke said, we learn to crawl, then walk, then run, then sprint. Pushing Boudreau away because he hasn't won a game 7 is ridiculous considering we aren't even a playoff team. Let's cross that bridge when we get there.
If Treliving does go off the board to hire his own guy, I'll trust his judgement and leave it at that. But as of right now, with the personnel that are available at present in front of us, Big Bruce is the best choice.
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05-03-2016, 03:57 PM
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#130
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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Randy Carlye just ahead of Brucey Boy IMO
statistically Caryle is just ahead in winning % and has a cup but hey so did Bob
Please not Eakins .....hell id rather them gamble on Troy Ward as a head coach.
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05-03-2016, 03:57 PM
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#131
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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I do not want anyone of the following names:
Ron Wilson
Marc Crawford
Randy Carlyle
Especially the first 2!!
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05-03-2016, 03:59 PM
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#132
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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A bunch of Bob McKenzie tweets on the subject of coaching market:
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie4h4 hours ago
A few thoughts on the NHL coaching market that is heating up now that CGY has joined OTT and ANA and possibly MIN in looking for new HC.
One gets very strong sense that, given ANA's and OTT's specific situations, successful candidate likely to have NHL head-coaching experience
I'm not as convinced that prerequisite is absolutely essential in CGY, that Flames may, and I say may, be more open to 1st time NHL HC.
MIN's vacancy isn't yet official - interim John Torchetti still waiting to hear - but @DarrenDreger reported MIN GM Chuck Fletcher...
...is in California today, believed to be talking to Bruce Boudreau. Maybe Randy Carlyle, too? MIN obviously considering outside option(s).
As @SunGarrioch reported, OTT has asked ANA for permission to talk to Boudreau, too, and that is expected to happen in the near future.
As near as I can tell, OTT has interviewed/will interview: Mike Yeo, Marc Crawford, Guy Boucher, Randy Carlyle, Benoit Groulx, Kevin Dineen.
There may well be others OTT has interviewed or will interview, such as Boudreau. In any case, coaching carousel is now speeding up.
One guy who is extremely well thought of in NHL coaching circles is LA associate HC John Stevens. I'm not convinced LA would let him go.
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05-03-2016, 04:04 PM
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#133
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Scoring Winger
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I don't want Eakins...but he might seriously dubnyk his next job.
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05-03-2016, 04:15 PM
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#134
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Bob Hartley was the coach of the Flames last night. Literally nothing else had leaked about Treliving already looking or interviewing for a coach.
Sometimes it's not media speak.
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Treliving doesn't strike me as a guy who would fire a coach without a good degree of certainty that there's a short list of coaches he (a) wants and (b) will sign with Calgary.
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05-03-2016, 04:24 PM
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#135
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Threadkiller
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: 51.0544° N, 114.0669° W
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I can maybe see Eakins as an assistant, but not HC.
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05-03-2016, 04:31 PM
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#136
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Burke on Tim and Sid show said the delay in firing Hartley was they needed to go through player and staff interviews and get ownership on side.
Also said they aren't in a hurry to hire the new coach. If some candidates are lost while Treliving is overseas, we can live with it as we are open to who are new coach will be.
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05-03-2016, 04:36 PM
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#137
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey 2h2 hours ago
LeBrun: I can tell you that as of the last hour, there still has not been contact between #Flames and #NHLDucks regarding Bruce Boudreau.
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05-03-2016, 04:39 PM
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#138
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey 2h2 hours ago
LeBrun: I can tell you that as of the last hour, there still has not been contact between #Flames and #NHLDucks regarding Bruce Boudreau.
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Probably won't be anything happening until Treliving gets back from Russia.
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05-03-2016, 04:40 PM
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#139
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
Burke on Tim and Sid show said the delay in firing Hartley was they needed to go through player and staff interviews and get ownership on side.
Also said they aren't in a hurry to hire the new coach. If some candidates are lost while Treliving is overseas, we can live with it as we are open to who are new coach will be.
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This would indicate to me that Treliving isn't looking at the usual suspects. If he was dedicated to reeling in a coach that has been interviewed by multiple teams, he's the type of guy that would be aggressive in getting him.
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05-03-2016, 04:43 PM
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#140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Watch it be Jim Playfair.
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