Gaudreau has no plans to leave Calgary anytime soon

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yes it matters a lot. The CBA exists for a reason. RFA and UFA status are among the most important items to be negotiated. And the reason is because UFAs make more money.

Teams control their budgets with RFAs. Simply throwing that away and saying 'pay him whatever' is how you destroy your franchise's competitiveness.

Paying him accordingly means you pay him what he's worth and not simply 'whatever' as you say. What destroys your teams competitiveness is signing guys like Wideman, Stajan and Hiller to high dollar, multi-year deals deals that you can't move.

Johnny is being outproduced by only a half a dozen players in the league and I find it troubling anyone would suggest that the Flames should approach him with the intention of signing him to say Stastny type money simply because he still has RFA years left.

When you clearly have a generational talent on your team (which I firmly believe he will pan out to be), you lock the talent up. If the Flames cannot manage an 8M dollar hit for a player that deserves it then they don't deserve the player in the first place.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

I was talking about cap space, and frankly I couldn't give two craps about the Flames actually revenue vs. expense. Even if it were a concern, this is not the contract to nickel and dime on. You would jeopardize the team's long term competitiveness, and therefore potential revenues. But because you've quoted "economists' projections", you're probably right...the Flames should become a cap floor team if/until oil rebounds. Let's just make sure they're the same economists that predicted the decline in oil prices, the housing market crash or the burst of the .com bubble

I will add another . Saying "economists don't agree with you therefore you are wrong" just shows that poster doesn't have much experience in finance/the investment world. Firstly economists are often wrong, there's a reason they're not investors and don't have skin in the game. Secondly even sophisticated investors/companies who do have skin in the game are often wrong. Thirdly you can find economists to confirm whatever bias you have on either said of the argument.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Flames ownership group came out and gave the mandate to management (I think the season Burke took over, but maybe the season prior?) to not nickel and dime a player, and to just pay them what they are worth.

With that being said, if the Flames are going to nickel and dime a contract, this might be the one to do it on. Why? Because it will set the upper-limit relative to all future contracts. The cheaper you get Gaudreau, the cheaper Bennett will probably be, the cheaper the 2016 pick will end up being, and it should have a trickle-down effect.

It will become easier to surround Gaudreau and the rest of the 'core' with legitimate talent anyways.

Now, you don't nickel and dime to the point you make the player feel like he is underappreciated. Last thing the Flames should do is piss off their superstar. I just hope that Gaudreau takes a bit of a discount on a long-term deal. While an 8x8 is in the ballpark of being (+/- .5million), I really hope he signs for 7. Anything below that, and it is a huge bargain for the Flames.

Really curious to see what Monahan signs for as well. Should be relatively close to Gaudreau's contract.

[Commandant]

A look at Gaudreau's production, and what type of RFA contract he could be looking at (compared to other recent RFAs of the same age/experience/production).

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...hnny-gaudreau/

[AcGold]

Intuition leads me to think Johnny takes a slightly below value deal or just average because he wants to win. He's so humble in the interviews, he's so reserved and so loyal to the Flames it seems like he's determined to win here.

The amount of time and dedication he puts into it doesn't seem to be just for money. I bet it will be identical to Monahans.


"In his first two NHL seasons, Kane scored 46 goals and 142 points. Gaudreau’s career marks are 54 goals and 142 points in his first two seasons."

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Commandant

A look at Gaudreau's production, and what type of RFA contract he could be looking at (compared to other recent RFAs of the same age/experience/production).

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...hnny-gaudreau/

Did not know Johnny can't be offer sheeted. That's an interesting wrinkle.

[FanIn80]

The Calgary Flames are coming off a disappointing season, falling to 25th in the NHL standings a year after making the Stanley Cup Playoffs and advancing to the second round. Their biggest weakness this season was goaltending, but their most important task this offseason is to sign top scoring forward Johnny Gaudreau to a new contract.

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...ohnny-gaudreau

The Calgary Flames are coming off a disappointing season, falling to 25th in the National Hockey League standings a year after advancing to the second round in the playoffs. Their biggest weakness this season was goaltending, but their most important task this off-season is to sign Sean Monahan to a new contract.

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...n-sean-monahan

This is almost exactly how I used to do essays in grade 7.

[albertGQ]

That's not even correct. The Flames finished 26th.

They must have just looked that the Flames were picking 6th overall and assumed we finished 6th last.

Not a big deal but shows that they are lazy

[StrykerSteve]

Despite the nitpicks above, I enjoyed the read. Thanks for sharing.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...ohnny-gaudreau



http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...n-sean-monahan

This is almost exactly how I used to do essays in grade 7.

In Conclusion...

[polak]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

In Conclusion...

Webster's dictionary defines....

[Coach]

In a world where...

[Roof-Daddy]

Starting to think it will be a 5 or 6 year deal tops. Would take him to 28/29 years old as he will be 23 this summer.

Maybe even the same deal Gio got. 6 years, $40.5 million. $6.75 per year.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Starting to think it will be a 5 or 6 year deal tops. Would take him to 28/29 years old as he will be 23 this summer.

Maybe even the same deal Gio got. 6 years, $40.5 million. $6.75 per year.

5 years only buys one UFA year. Either he gets bridged or it is 6-8 years. I worry that he will sign 6 similar to Dougie rather than the full 8. Again I am one of those people that thinks Gaudreau will eventually head East for the second half of his career

[polak]

Yeah I'll be surprised if he signs another contract in Calgary after this one. Seems to have so much connection to the east.

He needs to marry a Calgarian asap. Fathers sacrifice your daughters.

[Table 5]

If he wants to play his 30s in the East that's fine with me as long as we get him in his prime. Let someone else pay for past glory.

[heep223]

If he wants to go back home after he wins a cup with the Flames, I am ok with that. Prior thereto, I am not ok with that.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by polak

Yeah I'll be surprised if he signs another contract in Calgary after this one. Seems to have so much connection to the east.

He needs to marry a Calgarian asap. Fathers sacrifice your daughters.

A real huge sacrifice to marry your daughter to a humble, polite, educated, super rich professional athlete haha.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

5 years only buys one UFA year. Either he gets bridged or it is 6-8 years. I worry that he will sign 6 similar to Dougie rather than the full 8. Again I am one of those people that thinks Gaudreau will eventually head East for the second half of his career

Agreed. 6 it is then I bet. Wouldn't be surprised if it's ridiculously similar to the Gio deal. I'm hoping for 8, but something tells me the Flames management will be wary of handing out any deals longer than 6 years, and Johnny won't want to sign until he's 30/31, which I can't blame him.

[activeStick]

This thread got kind of depressing. Hopefully Gaudreau plays his entire career with the Flames as he is a unique and rare talent that doesn't come around often.

If he must move, hope the GM of the Flames squeezes whatever team out east for a deal completely tilted in favor of the Flames.