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Old 06-12-2016, 06:02 PM   #121
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One more thing. I'm so tired of seeing poor Ferrari and red bull strategy hand the race to Mercedes. They have enough of an advantage without also getting to take advantage of everyone's mistakes.
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Old 06-12-2016, 07:36 PM   #122
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Interesting race. Part of it is perhaps the tires this year. In 2014 when the tires went off, they were gone. The old super soft would fall apart after 8-15 laps depending on the race. Now we see ultra softs going 25 laps. I understand having a big temperature range for the ultra softs, but if they are only bringing them to short tracks like Canada and Monaco, they should design them to go off a cliff after 8-10 laps. They should also have a bit better time delta. Seeing Rosberg go out on the softs after his puncture tells me they didn't see any time advantage to to the ultra softs and the softs probably had to narrow temperature range to be effective.

TLDR, Pirelli is kinda sucking this year at tires.

Exciting to watch Hamilton get within striking distance of the championship. Will be really cool to see Azerbaijan. New courses are always fun and this one looks a little bonkers.

Good to see the Williams mixing it up and Red Bull and Ferrari are all in a pace race to Mercedes. They might make it soon.

Hey, Honda. When your engine sounds like it is eating metal all the time it just might be eating itself. Poor Button. Guy stays chin up, but man that has to be frustrating.
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Old 06-12-2016, 08:04 PM   #123
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Yeah I am not a fan of seeing so many one stop races. There should be a disadvantage to always choosing to run the tires longer. It should be faster tires that die quicker or slower tires that last longer. And there should be noticeable separation between each compound.
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Old 06-13-2016, 12:14 AM   #124
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Interesting race. Part of it is perhaps the tires this year. In 2014 when the tires went off, they were gone.
They also suffered from catastrophic failures. Remember Spa?

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Yeah I am not a fan of seeing so many one stop races. There should be a disadvantage to always choosing to run the tires longer. It should be faster tires that die quicker or slower tires that last longer. And there should be noticeable separation between each compound.
Did you forget the first part of the race? Vettel was catching Hamilton by one second a lap after he switched to the supersofts. That is new tires vs old. Ferrari got caught out a bit by VSC ending when it did. Only 3 out of 19 finishers attempted one stop strategies today.

You want to change the races up? Allow for refueling.
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Old 06-13-2016, 06:12 AM   #125
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They also suffered from catastrophic failures. Remember Spa?



Did you forget the first part of the race? Vettel was catching Hamilton by one second a lap after he switched to the supersofts. That is new tires vs old. Ferrari got caught out a bit by VSC ending when it did. Only 3 out of 19 finishers attempted one stop strategies today.

You want to change the races up? Allow for refueling.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean. I made reference to the shelf life of tires and tires not dropping off fast enough. Nor did I even specifically reference the race today. I think it is obvious that there is some performance lost over time on a tire and that different compounds will be faster from time to time. It just seems to me that too often recently the best strategy is to keep the tires put longer. In Spain it was thought for sure a two stopper would be fastest and clearly wasn't.

Watching guys conserve tires is boring.

I was reiterating basically exactly what fuzz said.
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Old 06-13-2016, 02:03 PM   #126
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Spoiler!


My Saturday view. I'll post Sunday stuff when I get home. I may even upload a couple of videos I took.
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Old 06-14-2016, 12:22 AM   #127
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Wow thats sick. Super Jealous. Still high on my bucket list, seeing that race.
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Old 06-14-2016, 01:17 AM   #128
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Just a couple more. A few are screen caps of my videos since didn't take any pictures during the race, only a couple of videos. Then one when I ran onto the track with all the fans post race.

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My Sunday seats were actually the least amazing of the three days. And I only say that because there are better areas in grandstands 11 and 12. Some actually have views of the start finish and views up towards he first chicane at 3/4.

Main grandstand is fun but the cars go by a bit too fast. I'd like to the same trio next time except pick my seats in 11 a bit better. 11 not 12, lower, on an aisle and towards turn 2.

I probably won't go again until 2018 though or maybe even 2019. Next year is college football.

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Old 06-14-2016, 11:15 AM   #129
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Video of practice 3. Maybe qualifying. Honestly I don't remember. You can really tell how loud that Honda is compared to the red bull.

https://youtu.be/pCBPYEp-Hz4

This video appears to be after both ferraris have pitted. Lap 12-15 maybe?

https://youtu.be/oFh7E88JKXU

I have a video of the start but half of it is of my feet because I gave up paying attention to film to cheer.
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Old 06-14-2016, 11:20 AM   #130
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Ok not as bad as I thought.

https://youtu.be/OoO0IBOwd_8

I hope they work. They are unlisted with access only with a link so hopefully they don't get taken down or anything. Not sure if F1 is bad with copyright stuff. Knowing that old goblin Bernie in charge they probably are.
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Haaa Haaa Lol!! Awesome!!!

Thanks for all the inside info and updates from Montreal 2016!!
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So...uh, who is at Azerbaijan this weekend to provide similar updates? I'd do it, but you know...recession and all.
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I have to give a huge thanks to Cecil. Your info was very helpful for the weekend, plus your travel blog was a fun read.

We flew in on Thursday at 7 am and basically went straight to the track for the open house based on your recommendation. We ended up getting there just after 9 and had to fight a bit of crowds so we skipped the autographs. It was really sweet to get up close to the cars as they were running. I agree, the Honda sounded brutal. I tried to take some movies on my phone, but the mic wasn't good enough to actually process the sound with any clarity.

The best part about going to the race live was the atmosphere at the track. It was awesome having the buzz escalate as the weekend progressed. Thursday was neat for the show and tell, Friday had the novelty of exploring the whole track and seeing the cars drive around for the first time, Saturday had the first event that meant something (qualifying) and Sunday had the big anticipation of the race. Our seats ended up looking right across from the Williams and Ferrari pits so we had a good view of the pits and an angled view of the podium.

Overall our time in Montreal was awesome too. Its a great city to visit. Everything is pretty much walk-able or a short train ride. I think we ended up walking about 20+ km a day. We hit up the street festivals on Peel, Crescent and St. Laurent and tried to see the rest of the major sites. We did the Bell Centre tour and the guide made fun of me wearing a flames hat in the Habs locker room so I replied that I was a Paul Byron fan. We missed the Museum of Fine Arts because it is closed on Mondays, but it was kind of funny that we ended up stumbling upon a portion of the mural festival on our way to St. Laurent instead.

The only drawback was everything seemed pretty busy in the evenings because of all of the additional tourists. On Monday everything seemed to be a lot quieter. Regardless, I'd still highly recommend the race to anyone that has an interest in F1. We will probably go back again some day.
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Wow!

What a course at Baku. Qually was crazy, Happy for Sergio, very interested to see what Ricciardo and Vettel do at the start, The tow is incredible on these super long straights as shown by Max, He was clocked at 354 Kmh at the finish line during qualifying.

Also will be interesting to see what Lewis does coming from 10th on the grid. He had a horrible qualifier, perhaps that fat slobbering coco is a bad luck charm.

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Lewis barely hooked the wall and it broke the front suspension.

I think we are going to see lots of the safety car tomorrow.
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Old 06-18-2016, 05:19 PM   #136
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Yup, the commentators were saying 18.5 cars finishing is what the bookies are offering. I'd guess we see 13. Anyone else have a wager on that one?

Force India is so fast. Good to see them mixing it up. Also, Poor Button. It's never his day.
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Only just caught up. Very interesting qualification session. Too bad about the Perez penalty.

Hope we see some good racing off the start. Safety cars should keep cars bunched and close.
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Hmmmm.....

I was surprised how clean a race that was, no safety car?

I was disappointed that Ricciardo was unable to threaten Rosberg. Super annoying that Lewis couldn't "race" for the better part of the GP. If the FIA's stance on allowed radio communication is based on messages relating to safety, surely having a driver distracted on track by flipping through HPP settings lap after lap could be considered a safety issue, Never mind the fact that we all watch this spectacle to see drivers race not simply ensure they bring the car home.
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Old 06-19-2016, 10:00 AM   #139
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Interesting to see Vettel ignore Ferrari and not let them ruin his strategy.

As for the radio stuff, I support the ban if being in the wrong engine mode is driver error. Like it appeared to be today with Lewis and for Nico in Spain. For Kimi I think it was a car or computer issue that wasn't his fault. In that case the driver is not an engineer and should not be expected to know how to fix his car. For Lewis and Nico, they should be expected to know how to drive their car in the proper mode. Assuming that was Lewis' issue. Obviously Nico was at fault in Spain.

Good for Perez.

Edit: sounds like Nico and Lewis had same issue and it wasn't driver error. Nico knew how to fix his since he'd seen it before. That's tough. I expect them to know how to drive not be in race engineers.

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Oh and I watched some stuff from Canada last night.

Vettel crashing Lewis' interview and seeing them joke around was great. The jokes they kept making about this seagulls was hilarious.

I can also confirm that just like Lewis, a seagull also #### on me on Sunday. Had to scrub off my red bull hat when I got home. Gross. I saw multiple people get dive bombed by those damned birds last weekend. They do it on purpose I swear.
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