[News] Jagr surpasses Gordie Howe for 3rd all time in points. 1851 points and counting.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

I never watched Howe so tough to judge, but is Jagr actually not a pretty fair comparison.
Which is to say - both of them achieved gaudy numbers through longevity and not by having out of this world single seasons.

The thing is, Howe was at his peak in the 1950s, when scoring was just as low as in the dead puck era, and there were fewer games in a season. There was at least one time when he and his linemates, the Production Line, were 1-2-3 in scoring in the NHL. Howe won the Art Ross six times and led the league in goals four times. He truly was an absolutely dominant player for several years.

Also, he had a truly fearsome physical element to his game that Jagr never had. In an era of much rougher hockey, Howe was his own enforcer. He was simply a beast of an all-round athlete.

I would still put Howe ahead of Jagr on the all-time list, though it's not unfair to compare the two.

[Northendzone]

Personally I hate comparing players from different eras, as there are so many variables - from the coaching and training that was availible to them as kids to nutrition and charter flights in the pros.

If both jäger and Howe were availible to draft, it would seem you would have a tough choice.

Guys like jäger and chelios are amazing given the extra work they need to do at an older age

[codynw]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

I never watched Howe so tough to judge, but is Jagr actually not a pretty fair comparison.
Which is to say - both of them achieved gaudy numbers through longevity and not by having out of this world single seasons.

Jagr had both longevity and ridiculous single seasons.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

If both jäger and Howe were availible to draft, it would seem you would have a tough choice.

That's a great test to apply. As much as I love Jagr, I'd take Howe in a heartbeat (especially with the hindsight that he wouldn't disappear for a few years in the prime of his career)