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[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by Bingo

The other variable on special teams is compensating for goaltending. A team that knows their goaltender will make every save he can see (Kiprusoff days), can play a much different style than a team that feels they have to over compensate for a guy that they have little faith in.

No coincidence that the Flames PK was dead last until Ramo found it, and then brutal again in the last three games with Ramo out for the season.

No trust.

Hockey is a position game, and if you don't trust your teammates to do their jobs you get pulled out of the spot you should be in creating holes and opportunities.

But coaches rarely hang their goaltenders out to dry, ... I think only MacTavish had that angle and it did little good for him. I'm guessing behind closed doors they all agree that goaltending is killing them this season.

This exactly. Agree 100%.

Look at Montreal. With Price they're in contention to come out of the East in the playoffs, without him, they're bottom of the league bad. And Montreal has got significantly better goaltending, even without Price, than the Flames have had.

You can't out coach bad goaltending, you can't out defend bad goaltending.

"In hockey, goaltending is 75 percent of the game. Unless it’s bad goaltending. Then it’s 100 percent of the game because you’re going to lose” - Gene Ubriaco

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Bingo

The other variable on special teams is compensating for goaltending. A team that knows their goaltender will make every save he can see (Kiprusoff days), can play a much different style than a team that feels they have to over compensate for a guy that they have little faith in.

No coincidence that the Flames PK was dead last until Ramo found it, and then brutal again in the last three games with Ramo out for the season.

No trust.

Hockey is a position game, and if you don't trust your teammates to do their jobs you get pulled out of the spot you should be in creating holes and opportunities.

But coaches rarely hang their goaltenders out to dry, ... I think only MacTavish had that angle and it did little good for him. I'm guessing behind closed doors they all agree that goaltending is killing them this season.

The reverse is even more true. If the goalie has no confidence the seems are covered he'll cheat and get scored on (playing deep in the net when puck is at the point and cheating towards the far side when in tight).


It's chicken and egg and I don't think the terrible defending has gotten as much play as the terrible goaltending

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

I think I'll take a break from CP until the Hartley apologists are gone. I can't believe how right HF boards was when they always say CP is just one big circle jerk of homers.