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Old 01-11-2016, 08:08 PM   #121
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Ugh. This is just snowballing out of control. This will most likely end embarrassingly for both the city and the flames.
Pfft, they've merely just touched mitts and starting the fight at this point. When an actual proposal comes forth, that's when the punches will start getting thrown between the two.

We ain't seen nothing yet.
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:09 PM   #122
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HA. Francis is pissed.

Now he knows what I feel like when he talks.
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Eric Francis called Nenshi's comments/actions "shameful".
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:09 PM   #124
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I missed what he said grabbing a drink..what did EF say?
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:10 PM   #125
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My interest in the NHL has already been waning for years due to a number of factors. If we start to hear relocation talk of the Flames because the organization is too incompetent to put a real proposal together then I'm just going to quit caring alltogether
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Let's consider the worst possible outcome.

The Flames move.

Could there possibly be a more desireable relocation for the Carolinas, Miamis, Columbus, owners?

And the blowback to Trimax, CNRL, RCR, etc; all headquartered in this city, and the requisite brand management.

Of other pro sports teams that have moved, have any had an ownership group so entrenched in their local cities culture and livelihood?


The threat of relocation is blowing smoke.
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Not often I agree with Francis, but I agree with his comments there. Shame Nenshi.
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:11 PM   #128
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If I we're the flames, and I actually had no plan 'B' I'd keep moving forward with more news, and more announcements as if the project is going to proceed. Like right now would be a really good time to start releasing some actual awesome renderings, and get the public moving with you.

When asked about funding, just simply say we continue to work with the stake holders on the planned funding model.

Right now the flames appear to basically be sitting idol, doing nothing but waiting for the city.

It's the weirdest thing.
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Aren't they waiting for the report on the land to come back?

If it is going to cost too much to clean up that would scrap the plans before there is any talk about who pays what.
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Eric Francis called Nenshi's comments/actions "shameful".
Francis is typically over the top but I do believe the Flames ownership deserve better than Nenshi's childish behaviour. I could see if the owner was a guy like Feterik that rolled into town and started making noise but the Flames are and have been a big part of this city since 1980 and he's kind of treating them like crap in the media. Pretty classless IMO.
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Let's consider the worst possible outcome.

The Flames move.

Could there possibly be a more desireable relocation for the Carolinas, Miamis, Columbus, owners?

And the blowback to Trimax, CNRL, RCR, etc; all headquartered in this city, and the requisite brand management.

Of other pro sports teams that have moved, have any had an ownership group so entrenched in their local cities culture and livelihood?


The threat of relocation is blowing smoke.

Bang on. The only way they move is if they sell, and that's even less likely
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:16 PM   #132
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Nenshi has never met a camera or a microphone that he didn't like. Guy is a preening peacock who likes to smugly remind you how brilliant he is.
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Francis is typically over the top but I do believe the Flames ownership deserve better than Nenshi's childish behaviour. I could see if the owner was a guy like Feterik that rolled into town and started making noise but the Flames are and have been a big part of this city since 1980 and he's kind of treating them like crap in the media. Pretty classless IMO.
They didn't even consult Nenshi before the proposal. Who is disrespecting who?

Ken King really failed here.
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Nenshi has never met a camera or a microphone that he didn't like. Guy is a preening peacock who likes to smugly remind you how brilliant he is.
Welcome to the minority!
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Francis is typically over the top but I do believe the Flames ownership deserve better than Nenshi's childish behaviour. I could see if the owner was a guy like Feterik that rolled into town and started making noise but the Flames are and have been a big part of this city since 1980 and he's kind of treating them like crap in the media. Pretty classless IMO.
Nenshi acting like a child is nothing new, and he certainly did here, but really Bettman's comments should have been directed at the teams ownership, not the city
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Bang on. The only way they move is if they sell, and that's even less likely
If Vegas doesn't get an expansion team I would eyeball relocating there if I was a Flames owner as flights are cheap and it's not overly far from Calgary like an Eastern destination would be. It's an untapped market and at worst I could still seeing Vegas being more successful than Florida but the ceiling is much higher.
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Nenshi acting like a child is nothing new, and he certainly did here, but really Bettman's comments should have been directed at the teams ownership, not the city
Well you have Ken King talking about owners giving up $450M of their own money. It was wishful thinking that this would be done without public money but what grinds my gears is the 2-3 year delay this proposal took to stir up public debate
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So as I understand it. The reaction to Nenshi's comments today are LOUD NOISES!!!
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If Vegas doesn't get an expansion team I would eyeball relocating there if I was a Flames owner as flights are cheap and it's not overly far from Calgary like an Eastern destination would be. It's an untapped market and at worst I could still seeing Vegas being more successful than Florida but the ceiling is much higher.
There is likely no way that happens but it wouldn't be shocking if ownership teased a move. I would hate that move as it is so Katz
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Well you have Len Long talking about owners giving up $450M of their own money. It was wishful thinking that this would be done without public money but what grinds my gears is the 2-3 year delay this proposal took to stir up public debate
The flood played a big role in the delay and I don't know if it's fair to blame that on the Flames.
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