But your frustration seems based on a lot of assumptions about how season 6 and thereon is going to go.
Unless you know something the rest of us don't, we have no way of knowing how these deaths impact the "end goal".
Honesty, I think you nailed it. Not to take any shots or get too psychological here but I've noticed with nik-'s posts that if things don't go the way he thought or expected, he doesn't like it. From Game of Thrones to nhl draft picks.
Could be totally wrong, but just what I've seen.
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Honesty, I think you nailed it. Not to take any shots or get too psychological here but I've noticed with nik-'s posts that if things don't go the way he thought or expected, he doesn't like it. From Game of Thrones to nhl draft picks.
Could be totally wrong, but just what I've seen.
You're totally wrong, but I'm tired of arguing about it. I obviously lack the capacity to present my concerns so people understand them. So #### it.
Don't think Dany is in the same position she was before. That group of Dohraki seemed to be looking for her, no? I don't think a bunch of them ascended on her just for sport. Certainly they saw and have heard about the huge dragons she has now, maybe a group saw her riding it. The way they were circling her leads me to believe they're there, for her specifically. Not to attack.
I'd agree. They seem like a pretty fickle and superstitious bunch. Drogo being unable to ride a horse made him appear to be very weak to the Dothraki. Perhaps riding a dragon makes you look very strong, and the Dothraki have now returned to Dany's service.
I think complaints about this season are totally justified. Most of the season was good but there were parts that were very low quality in ways that we haven't seen in past seasons. I remember how excited I was watching this video:
and now I realize that none of those new characters were remotely interesting or well written for this season, High Sparrow being the only slight exception. This was almost a rebuilding season for the show
Ellaria Sand. Her total goal in the show seems to be avenging Elia and Oberyn, and she is willing to go to war to do so. I would guess that she will now plot with the Sand Snakes to assassinate Prince Doran and lead Dorne to war against the Lannisters. It won't be hard to rally the Dornish against them.
It's one good way to avoid punishment, but she's going to have to go through Areo Hotah to do it, and that's a big mutha with an even bigger axe.
Uh, I doubt it. Even if she manages to kill Doran, power would then move to his son Trystane. Since she was the one to poison his bride to be and true love, then I seriously doubt he would be moved to start a war with the Lannisters. He'd be more likely to execute her and everyone associated with her.
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So the way the series ended makes me think Jon isn't dead.
It has been a while since I've been so invested in a character as I was with Jon. I might have actually been complaining about screen time being given to the other stories because his story was so great. And then they go and kill him.
Unreal.
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Ellaria Sand. Her total goal in the show seems to be avenging Elia and Oberyn, and she is willing to go to war to do so. I would guess that she will now plot with the Sand Snakes to assassinate Prince Doran and lead Dorne to war against the Lannisters. It won't be hard to rally the Dornish against them.
It's one good way to avoid punishment, but she's going to have to go through Areo Hotah to do it, and that's a big mutha with an even bigger axe.
Myrcella's ship would return to port immediately and it's going to be obvious to everyone who killed her. Ellaria is a ####### who's only privileges are those allowed to her by the Martell family. She's got less than an hour to do something before the shackles get her.
Uh, I doubt it. Even if she manages to kill Doran, power would then move to his son Trystane. Since she was the one to poison his bride to be and true love, then I seriously doubt he would be moved to start a war with the Lannisters. He'd be more likely to execute her and everyone associated with her.
Well, we've all seen the competency of boy kings thus far.
Although it hasn't been executed well in the show, it appears as though we are being conditioned to somehow see how fierce and conniving Ellaria is, and by extension how fiercely loyal the Sand Snakes are to her and Oberyn.
I don't doubt that they could assassinate both Doran and Trystane should they wish it. Again, they haven't shown it well, but there is a long conflicting interest between the Lannisters and the Dornish, and I would say they could rally a following fairly easily should it be needed. It most likely isn't merely the 4 of them.
Just speculation on what the showrunners have been trying to convey about these characters. They won't be happy with simply killing a princess. They want to take out the entire Lannister bloodline.
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Myrcella's ship would return to port immediately and it's going to be obvious to everyone who killed her. Ellaria is a ####### who's only privileges are those allowed to her by the Martell family. She's got less than an hour to do something before the shackles get her.
She will also probably be more aggressive with her plot now that she has taken the initial step in killing Myrcella. The proverbial #### can go bad and quickly, though the more realistic outcome would be that the ship returns to port, they put Ellaria on trial and detain/imprison the Sand Snakes, and try to restore the peace with King's Landing.
Then again, how open do you think Cersei and Jaime will be to continuing an alliance with a family that harbored Myrcella's assassin?
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Myrcella's ship would return to port immediately and it's going to be obvious to everyone who killed her. Ellaria is a ####### who's only privileges are those allowed to her by the Martell family. She's got less than an hour to do something before the shackles get her.
I wouldn't be so sure. They could continue to Kingslanding with the Martell heir as a prisoner.
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Those of you saying the characters are neither entirely good or evil are missing out on the characters that actually are entirely evil: Ramsay, the Mountain, Ser Trent and Ser Baros, Vargo Hoat and all of his "Brave Companions" and probably more I'm forgetting. Who is a truly good person? Ser Barristan Selmy, maybe, but even he served the Mad King in his youth, or so I seem to recall. Samwell Tarly is maybe another, although he is certainly a coward and an oathbreaker.
That's the one big complaint I have about the show, that the only absolutes that are shown are dark ones. Yes, people are generally flawed, but the same terrible events that produce monsters also produce heroes. There doesn't have to be a happy ending, but is it too much to ask for a few more random acts of happiness along the way?
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Those of you saying the characters are neither entirely good or evil are missing out on the characters that actually are entirely evil: Ramsay, the Mountain, Ser Trent and Ser Baros, Vargo Hoat and all of his "Brave Companions" and probably more I'm forgetting. Who is a truly good person? Ser Barristan Selmy, maybe, but even he served the Mad King in his youth, or so I seem to recall. Samwell Tarly is maybe another, although he is certainly a coward and an oathbreaker.
That's the one big complaint I have about the show, that the only absolutes that are shown are dark ones. Yes, people are generally flawed, but the same terrible events that produce monsters also produce heroes. There doesn't have to be a happy ending, but is it too much to ask for a few more random acts of happiness along the way?
Tough decisions are a running theme in the show. Daenarys is the best example. She tries to be totally good, but it's just not possible to do so and rule a fractured medieval style kingdom.
Those of you saying the characters are neither entirely good or evil are missing out on the characters that actually are entirely evil: Ramsay, the Mountain, Ser Trent and Ser Baros, Vargo Hoat and all of his "Brave Companions" and probably more I'm forgetting. Who is a truly good person? Ser Barristan Selmy, maybe, but even he served the Mad King in his youth, or so I seem to recall. Samwell Tarly is maybe another, although he is certainly a coward and an oathbreaker.
That's the one big complaint I have about the show, that the only absolutes that are shown are dark ones. Yes, people are generally flawed, but the same terrible events that produce monsters also produce heroes. There doesn't have to be a happy ending, but is it too much to ask for a few more random acts of happiness along the way?
Has Tyrion done anything bad?
Sure, he's crass, but other than shooting his father on the ####ter, isn't he pretty much a 'good' character?
Those of you saying the characters are neither entirely good or evil are missing out on the characters that actually are entirely evil: Ramsay, the Mountain, Ser Trent and Ser Baros, Vargo Hoat and all of his "Brave Companions" and probably more I'm forgetting. Who is a truly good person? ...
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Wow, what a ride. I've watched everything from season one until now, read all 307 pages of this thread. How in the hell am I going to wait until next year to see the next season when I've been knocking off two or three episodes per night for the last few weeks? Amazing show, rips out your heart just as you get a little bit of hope for a character or storyline.
Got all the way to Monday before the internet spoiled the Jon Snow ending for me. Pretty good I'd say. Before I started watching, I'd heard about the Red Wedding and assumed it was Joffrey's.
