10-03-2015, 07:20 PM
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#121
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Originally Posted by jayswin
but certainly seems weird to throw two games rather than one.
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The second game I could understand after a night of partying. But doing it the second of a double header too was just silly IMO.
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10-03-2015, 07:24 PM
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#122
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by JayP
How hot a team is going into the playoffs has zero statistical bearing on playoff success. Debate their lineup against Houston or New York, but them being hot will have zero impact on whether or not they beat the Jays.
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Actually? Not saying you're wrong, but that seems really weird that being a hot team heading into playoffs would have zero statistical meaning.
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10-03-2015, 07:25 PM
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#123
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Originally Posted by JayP
How hot a team is going into the playoffs has zero statistical bearing on playoff success. Debate their lineup against Houston or New York, but them being hot will have zero impact on whether or not they beat the Jays.
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The Texas Rangers are the best team in the AL not named the Blue Jays. Basically choosing to play them Instead of the wildcard team was pure idiocy on the Jays part. I think the Jays can beat them, but it's not a cake walk like I think the wildcard team would be.
How does a team whose been on fire for the past two months have no bearing on their playoff performance. That sounds pretty ridiculous to me.
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10-03-2015, 07:26 PM
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#124
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Look at us, arguing over strategy heading into the playoffs. The last time these arguments took place, Kurt Cobain was still alive. What a time to be a Jays fan.
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10-03-2015, 07:29 PM
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#125
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Meh, Texas has cooled off so it really doesn't matter. They're 8-7 down the stretch.
Scary offence to face, but we're gonna eat that pitching alive.
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10-03-2015, 07:33 PM
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#126
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Giving Buerhle his two innings in what is now an important game is also ridiculous. Not much to complain about this year, but these ridiculous decisions at the end of this season have me scratching my head. wonder if Kansas sits people tommorow?
Last edited by TheAlpineOracle; 10-03-2015 at 07:37 PM.
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10-03-2015, 07:33 PM
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#127
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apartment 5A
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Full moon tonight?
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10-03-2015, 07:37 PM
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#128
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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People getting pretty bent up over something that I'm guessing has been discussed and debated at length among some pretty smart baseball people within the Jays organization. Maybe have some faith they know a little more than we do?
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10-03-2015, 07:37 PM
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#129
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Originally Posted by jayswin
Actually? Not saying you're wrong, but that seems really weird that being a hot team heading into playoffs would have zero statistical meaning.
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Actually. There's actually a small negative correlation depending on what sample of games you look at. This is true for basically any sport - the media and fans love to make a big deal of it, but no one bothers to check if the results back it up.
Like was just said, it's just as easy to say that Texas has cooled off in their last 15 games. Anyone can choose the sample size that fits their opinion best. At the end of the day it comes down to the Jays lineup vs. the
Rangers lineup. And if you look at that Texas really doesn't have any advantages.
The Jays have a +231 run differential. The Rangers have a +11 run differential (by far the worst of any current playoff team). It should be pretty easy to be very confident going into a series like that.
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10-03-2015, 07:38 PM
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#130
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Also, everyone should be aware that as of this moment Texas has not yet even won their division.
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10-03-2015, 07:43 PM
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#131
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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- Not the worst thing to get a sobering loss to refocus.
-Get Buehrle his 2 innings tomorrow. KC game starts same time.That will mean more to players now that there is less of winning AL. Hopefully Buerhle can be available for long relief in playoffs.
- If KC wins tomorrow, Yanks will take care of Royals in DS
-Jays and Yanks in ALCS and Jays will have home field
-Profit
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10-03-2015, 07:44 PM
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#132
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
The Texas Rangers are the best team in the AL not named the Blue Jays. Basically choosing to play them Instead of the wildcard team was pure idiocy on the Jays part. I think the Jays can beat them, but it's not a cake walk like I think the wildcard team would be.
How does a team whose been on fire for the past two months have no bearing on their playoff performance. That sounds pretty ridiculous to me.
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The Rangers could still easily end up being the wild card team which goes to show how little seeding really matters when we could end up playing them whether we finish first or second. The Rangers also have a +11 run differential which is by far the lowest of the playoff teams. A better argument can be made that they are the worst of the playoff teams than the second best as hot streaks have very little predictive power especially compared to a team's run differential over 162 games.
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10-03-2015, 07:47 PM
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#133
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Originally Posted by Chump
The Rangers could still easily end up being the wild card team which goes to show how little seeding really matters when we could end up playing them whether we finish first or second. The Rangers also have a +11 run differential which is by far the lowest of the playoff teams. A better argument can be made that they are the worst of the playoff teams than the second best as hot streaks have very little predictive power especially compared to a team's run differential over 162 games.
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Texas was decimated by injuries for the first half of the season, and like the Jays, bolstered their lineup at the deadline. Easily the team I least look forward to playing in the playoffs.
I was really hoping for Houston. I'm also glad we won't be getting the Yankees. On paper we kill them, but the thought of Yankees stadium in the playoffs doesn't sit will with me for some reason.
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10-03-2015, 07:54 PM
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#134
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: the RR diner
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Wow, fans around here don't know how to cheer for a winner.
Of course getting 1 overall is preferable but it is hardly worth fretting over. Actually, statistically the wild cards have had a better record than the top team in recent years in the division finals.
The conditions on the weekend set up a very unusual circumstance. The conditions were terrible and double headers are always dangerous at the best of times. Sending everyone out for the second game of a double header in rainy conditions when you have a chance to rest them is beyond stupid. All it would take is one of your regulars injuring themselves on the wet grass after already having played a game to make the playoffs a much more dubious proposal than being second in the division. Add to that the game the next day was an early start and it really was a good decision to sit everyone. Athletes get tired, too, even if they are paid millions of dollars. They are still human beings that have limits.
The Blue Jays have a roster that should be able to beat anyone in the American League. You go in thinking that you will win. All this talk around here is loser talk.
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10-03-2015, 07:55 PM
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#135
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I believe in the Pony Power
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The Jays for me are clearly confident enough that they don't care about what matchup they get. Which is precisely the attitude to have. Rest and being healthy matters more than seeding at this point.
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10-03-2015, 08:24 PM
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#136
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Since the all star break:
TOR - 48-22 / +148
NYY - 39-34 / +45
TEX - 45-28 / +36
HOU - 36-33 / +59
LAA - 37-36 / -40
KAN - 42-33 / +15
The Jays don't need to fear any team in the AL.
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10-03-2015, 08:27 PM
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#137
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JayP
Actually. There's actually a small negative correlation depending on what sample of games you look at. This is true for basically any sport - the media and fans love to make a big deal of it, but no one bothers to check if the results back it up.
Like was just said, it's just as easy to say that Texas has cooled off in their last 15 games. Anyone can choose the sample size that fits their opinion best. At the end of the day it comes down to the Jays lineup vs. the
Rangers lineup. And if you look at that Texas really doesn't have any advantages.
The Jays have a +231 run differential. The Rangers have a +11 run differential (by far the worst of any current playoff team). It should be pretty easy to be very confident going into a series like that.
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Interesting, you can count me in with the group that never really looked into the stats. Thanks.
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10-03-2015, 08:29 PM
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#138
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Also, I hope everyone realizes how much of an absolute blessing it is for the Jays to be fully healthy (Travis aside, but his backup is pretty good) heading in to the post-season. All hands are on deck and this squad is locked and loaded. Watch out whichever poor team draws the Jays. It could get ugly very very fast. Especially starting with Price.
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10-03-2015, 10:12 PM
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#140
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I'm assuming that even if Buerhle is off the Roster, he's allowed to be in the dugout in the playoffs?
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