[Signing] Flames and Bouma settle on arbitration case (3 yrs, $2.2 mil AAV)

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by SofaProfessor

Yup! I meant total contract value. Clearly I shouldn't be trying to balance my sacred duties as a CP commenter with my work because that's the quality level of post that comes from it.

The trick is to let your quality of work suffer so your CP posts remain up to snuff.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by wingmaker

The flames have one really bad contract and it is Raymond.

IMO that is not correct...

Stajan
Smid
Engellend
Raymond

... those are all flat out bad contracts relative to what they provide. There are a few others that I would call slightly bad but not flat out bad.

[Badgers Nose]

I predicted 2.2. I am happy he is being rewarded - in two years he will either a major part of the team or awesome trade bait. I was worried this might end up as Prust like fan heartbreak.

[Enoch Root]

Raymond and Engelland are expensive contracts, sure. Got it.

That has nothing to do with Bouma whatsoever.

[pappa jan]

Happy for Bouma, he has earned every penny.

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[Fighting Banana Slug]

Although regression is certainly possible, given the high shooting percentage, but I think Bouma has just as good a chance of increasing his totals. I recall that last summer he was told/took it upon himself to improve his shot. He did so and actually has a pretty good release. I think he has a great chance to take more shots, be relied upon to take to the offense and be a 15-20 goal scorer over the course of the contract. No overpayment here.

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Ya and if you take Bouma out of the equation you have 2.8. So again whatever Bouma is "overpaid" doesn't make a difference.

200k in your opinion. In mine it's closer to 500k. I'll bet he doesn't score 10 goals or hit 30 points again over the life of this contract. Overpaying is overpaying, and it does make a difference

[TX_Flame]

It's a little on the high side considering I do expect him to regress. No, I'm not Lambert, but Bouma's Sh% was 3X his career average last season. Prove me wrong please, Boum Boum!

[puckedoff]

[TX_Flame]

Originally Posted by Frequitude

AAV is a touch too high (I wanted sub $2.0) and term is a year too long for my liking. Too much and too long in my book.

It buys one yr of UFA.

[Moneyhands23]

You can tell it's late July...so much doom and gloom over a 3rd liner getting 2.2 mil. RELAX PEOPLE.

Good contract and good term. Will not cause cap problems going forward

[getoverit]

I will take that bet

Originally Posted by Cheerio

200k in your opinion. In mine it's closer to 500k. I'll bet he doesn't score 10 goals or hit 30 points again over the life of this contract. Overpaying is overpaying, and it does make a difference

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

200k in your opinion. In mine it's closer to 500k. I'll bet he doesn't score 10 goals or hit 30 points again over the life of this contract. Overpaying is overpaying, and it does make a difference

I will take that bet. Name the terms.

[GioforPM]

Every time I see people complain that 2-3 million is too high I think they are thinking about 2005 salaries.

[flamesfan1297]

Don't mind the money or the term. Money is around where I thought it'd be, but term is a year longer

[TX_Flame]

Originally Posted by SofaProfessor

I said good term, high AAV. It's not ridiculous by any stretch of the imagination, though. If he continues to perform as he did this past season then the contract is fine. I think an AAV in the range of $5.5 - $6mil would have been perfect. Not a huge overpayment. Who knows, maybe Bouma shows up ready to play beyond our wildest expectations and makes the contract look like the best value on the team. Time will tell, I suppose.

You sure you got those numbers right?

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by New Era

So shaving $200-300k off of Bouma's salary doesn't mean anything, but shaving $200-300k off of Monahan, Gaudreau, or Giordano's salary is important? I think you have that a little backward. Overpaying guys on the lower lines set expectations where the players you hope to keep your salary cap under control are contributing to salary cap problems. You would think that Flames fans are old know how important a couple hundred grand is, watching the team play short handed to end a season because the team ran out of cap space. Every dollar matters.

Wow man your really reaching now. Just because Daryl didn't manage his cap one year all of a sudden this is some major concern? Has that even happened to another team ever? And nothing was mentioned about shaving a couple hundred thousand dollars off Monahan or Gaudreau's salary.

You do realize there was an arbitration hearing. The arbitration very easily could have been higher than 2.2. But yes let's continue to cry over 200k. Guy has a career year, is a heart and soul player, want's to be here, showed and proved last year but let's nickel and dime him.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

Overpaying is overpaying, and it does make a difference

Originally Posted by Cheerio

Still crossing my fingers that we can lock Schlemko up for 4 year ~12 mil

The ironing is delicious.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...46#post5339446

[kehatch]

Under the cap you can pay each player an average of 3 million. For every player getting paid 5 million you need a player to get 1 million to level that out. For every player getting 8 million you need two players getting paid 1 million.

If Bouma keeps producing as a third liner his contract is fine.

I think the reason many are concerned is that Bouma hasn't produced at any level, including the CHL. He is a prime candidate to regress.

If he is playing like a fourth liner your burning cap that would allow you to sign one of your high end players like Gaudreau, Monahan, Giordano, etc.

Time will tell if this is a good contract. Personally I love Bouma. But by the numbers he isn't the defensive player some are giving him credit for being and there is a real chance he can't sustain this seasons offensive production.

I think he just cashed in on a fluke season and I think the cap is too high. I hope I am wrong.

[Gaudfather]

Lance on Fan 960 now with Rob Kerr - he sounds very happy - says no hard feelings at all.