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Old 06-29-2015, 10:57 AM   #121
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Just heard this on the radio. A song about a Father coming to grips with his son being gay:

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Old 06-29-2015, 06:59 PM   #122
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Is there even a single poster against gay marriage on CP, these days? I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a post against it.
I guess even the staunchest opponents would have to admit that nothing bad has happened in the 10 years this has been legal in Canada?

We're in "old man yelling at cloud" territory here if people still wanna bitch about this.

Although, there was that "Hockey Illiterate" guy in this thread who brought out the old "pedophiles and polygamists" routine, but I think that was a joke.
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Anyone who says anything remotely against it would be raked over the coals so I assume it is not worth the hassel.
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Old 06-30-2015, 02:59 PM   #124
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Anyone who says anything remotely against it would be raked over the coals so I assume it is not worth the hassel.


People who are against equality should be raked over the coals.
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And here we go. Surprised it took this long, honestly. What a terrible country.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news...-act/32570645/

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Old 09-18-2015, 12:35 PM   #126
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And here we go. Surprised it took this long, honestly. What a terrible country.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news...-act/32570645/
I imagine these are the same people that were once putting up "legal" roadblocks to interracial marriage as well.

EDIT: Wait, it's ACTUALLY still illegal in Tennessee? The internet cannot be right about that can it? (This is the US bigot south . . . I guess it could be right).

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Old 09-18-2015, 12:42 PM   #127
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Those poor, persecuted Christians...being forced to live amongst people with different beliefs.
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Old 09-18-2015, 10:35 PM   #128
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And here we go. Surprised it took this long, honestly. What a terrible country.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news...-act/32570645/

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What ignorant people. There is nothing "natural" about marriage, anyway. It is just a construct of humankind.
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Old 09-18-2015, 10:57 PM   #129
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Back to jail (hopefully).

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/a...order-33867726

U.S. District Judge David Bunning released Davis from jail on the condition that she not interfere with her employees as they issue marriage licenses. When she returned to work, Davis altered the marriage forms by removing her name, making deputy clerk Brian Mason initial the form instead of sign it, and then requiring the form to be notarized.
"A notary has nothing to do with it," Mason's attorney, Richard Hughes, told The Associated Press on Friday after filing a status report with the judge. Hughes said it was "really bizarre" that Davis would alter the forms.

"Unless she's got a really good reason, and I'll certainly be patient and wait to hear it, the only inference I personally can draw from it is she is trying to circumvent the court's order," he said.

Also Friday, the attorneys for the American Civil Liberties Union said in a court filing that the changes on the form require Mason to issue the licenses "in his capacity as a 'notary public' rather than a deputy clerk of the Rowan County Clerk's Office," changes that "do not comply" with the court's order to not interfere with her employees who issue the licenses.

"These alterations call into question the validity of the marriage licenses issued," the attorneys wrote in a footnote to a motion asking the judge to certify the case as a class-action lawsuit. "Plaintiffs are exploring legal options to address these material alterations."

State law requires marriage licenses to be issued under the authority of the county clerk. Someone else, a minister or other officiant, then performs the ceremony and signs the license. The clerk then files the license with county records.

Davis has said that any license issued — with or without her name — is not valid unless she authorizes it. However, when she was released from jail she changed the marriage license forms to say they were being issued under the authority of the federal court. Davis' attorney said this new form, if OK with the judge, would solve the problem because gay couples would have a marriage license and Davis would have a clear conscience.

Kentucky's Democratic governor and attorney general have both said the licenses are valid and will be recognized by the state. Bunning, the federal judge, has said he does not know if the licenses are valid and it was up to the gay couples to take that chance.
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Is this person self-employed or is there something that I am missing? Why hasn't she simply been terminated or relieved altogether of this specific duty?

The other thing I don't get is, are these people like her and Jesse Rau being bankrolled behind the scenes? Why would they risk their livelihood and public embarrassment over this? I can't fathom why somebody would do this. Do they really lack this self-awareness that they are going to be virtually unemployable and going to be ostracized for the rest of their lives?
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Old 09-19-2015, 12:06 PM   #131
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She's an elected official, can't just fire her. She won't be ostracized, she's a bloody hero to a lot of people down there.
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Old 09-19-2015, 12:07 PM   #132
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Is this person self-employed or is there something that I am missing? Why hasn't she simply been terminated or relieved altogether of this specific duty?

The other thing I don't get is, are these people like her and Jesse Rau being bankrolled behind the scenes? Why would they risk their livelihood and public embarrassment over this? I can't fathom why somebody would do this. Do they really lack this self-awareness that they are going to be virtually unemployable and going to be ostracized for the rest of their lives?
She's an elected official. so she needs to be impeached.

I don't know about being bankrolled but she's supported by conservatives like Mike Huckabee. He's using her as fodder for his own campaign, making her out to be a victim.
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Old 09-19-2015, 12:41 PM   #133
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Kim Davis inspires NC mayoral candidate to jail gays: ‘What’s wrong with eradicating homosexuals?

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Eugene Holmes, who is running for mayor of Kings Mountain, says he doesn’t want to be mayor, but he’s running because of his anti-gay views. He views Kentucky clerk Kim Davis as something of a role model.

“In my administration I would do just like Mrs. Davis did in Kentucky,” Holmes said. “If you elect me, I’ll uphold the law of the state of North Carolina. I would get the D.A. to swear out a warrant on any man who says he’s gay. Sodomy is a crime, a felony in the state of North Carolina.”
Holmes said he’s a member of the Church of God and also the Promise Keepers, a men’s religious organization.

“What’s wrong with eradicating homosexuals? We should jail them, throw them all in jail!” Holmes told the Herald.
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Holmes also wants to ban alcohol, divorce and all immigration to the U.S., the Herald reports.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/kim-...g-homosexuals/
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The USA is so silly.
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She's an elected official, can't just fire her. She won't be ostracized, she's a bloody hero to a lot of people down there.

Okay. Now I an even more confused. Why would this even be an elected position?
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Old 09-19-2015, 04:01 PM   #136
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Okay. Now I an even more confused. Why would this even be an elected position?
That's the U.S. for you. Dog catcher could be an elected position. Curious whether her term ends this November and whether she might win again if she runs.
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Probably a closeted, self-hating, gay men organization.
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Old 09-19-2015, 06:33 PM   #138
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Those poor, persecuted Christians...being forced to live amongst people with different beliefs.
Beginning to dislike the anti Christian bias going on in this forum. If I said something bad about gay people, not that I would, people would lose their minds.

But say whatever you want about Christians and it's publicly acceptable. Sweeping generalizations get made and nobody cares, everyone just accepts any negative extreme. Assumptions are made with zero consideration and that's cool with everyone around here. I bet I'll get villified for even mentioning it.
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Beginning to dislike the anti Christian bias going on in this forum. If I said something bad about gay people, not that I would, people would lose their minds.

But say whatever you want about Christians and it's publicly acceptable. Sweeping generalizations get made and nobody cares, everyone just accepts any negative extreme. Assumptions are made with zero consideration and that's cool with everyone around here. I bet I'll get villified for even mentioning it.
I have no issues with Christians...just the ones like in the OP that think their rules and beliefs should be applied to everyone, and when that doesn't happen, feel like they are the victim. They aren't.
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Beginning to dislike the anti Christian bias going on in this forum. If I said something bad about gay people, not that I would, people would lose their minds.

But say whatever you want about Christians and it's publicly acceptable. Sweeping generalizations get made and nobody cares, everyone just accepts any negative extreme. Assumptions are made with zero consideration and that's cool with everyone around here. I bet I'll get villified for even mentioning it.
It's a fairly apt comment, though, no? Christianity has dominated North American life for so long that I think Christians sometimes feel that anything less than full acceptance of their beliefs is persecution.

I find it fascinating to watch society slowly push Christianity to the wayside in favor of catering to all races, religion and cultures and seeing Christians act whoa is me.

As is the case with most religion my personal opinion is that Christianity can be very fulfilling and important, even life saving to individuals, but discriminative and hateful when practiced and put upon society as a whole. Christianity and the way it's beliefs are forced on society in a bigoted, hateful way deserves all the criticism it receives. And that's coming from someone who was raised Christian.
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