[News] NHL rejects Tkachev's ELC with the Oilers

[bob-loblaw]

Originally Posted by Meers

Somebody up North really should get canned for this sort of thing.

But, you know that isn't going to happen . . .

Most likely they will get a promotion instead.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Wills makes an interesting point on the Fan 960.

Was wondering if the league actually caught that Tkchaev was inelliglbe for a contract, or if another team reported it to the league after doing their due diligence because they were interested in Tkchaev

Oh, I'm sure someone said something. Could you imagine if the league didn't catch it and it came out later?

What if they'd win a few games with an ineligible player?

The butthurt would have been epic!

[nixon45]

Just reading the roller coaster of emotions from oilers fans on HFBoards.

I will sleep well tonight

[FlatLandFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

MacT: "Vladdy, you are the bold move I have been waiting for! Just sign here and you're officially an Oiler!"
Tkachev: "Sure.... may I ask though Mr. MacTavish, why aren't you wearing your glasses today?"
MacT: "They fell in my Fruit Loops this morning when I tried to drink the colored milk. Who cares! They pay me to Lead not to Read!"

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

Honestly, the entirety of the Oilers front office should be canned... but it will never happen. The Oilers will be a bad team until 2074 when they get a lucky bounce and make the playoffs in the last game of the season.

I'm sure they'll all cry into their cocoa at the weekly Friday night Pajama party at Katz's swingers pad.

[bob-loblaw]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Wills makes an interesting point on the Fan 960.

Was wondering if the league actually caught that Tkchaev was ineligible for a contract, or if another team reported it to the league after doing their due diligence because they were interested in Tkchaev

You'd think that someone, somewhere in the league office would know the signing would be offside eventually and just let them try and do it. Especially when in the Oilers news release announcing the signing they mention that he played in Omsk.

I don't know the specific rules with the CBA and kids that age, but wouldn't the fact that he's 18 alone make him ineligible for a PTO? Take for example Hunter Smith. We drafted him this year but he went undrafted last year - so I assume we could have signed him to a PTO to last years training camp? I thought that PTO's were for players never drafted at all and ineligible because of they were over the draft age.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by bob-loblaw

I don't know the specific rules with the CBA and kids that age, but wouldn't the fact that he's 18 alone make him ineligible for a PTO? Take for example Hunter Smith. We drafted him this year but he went undrafted last year - so I assume we could have signed him to a PTO to last years training camp? I thought that PTO's were for players never drafted at all and ineligible because of they were over the draft age.

PTOs are allowed for any player as long as they passed through the draft at least once. Tkachev has passed through the draft once.

IIRC Todd Button said they tried to get Smith to come to the Flames camp last season, but Smith decided to focus on some offseason training instead.

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

As has already been pointed out, the ROR situation was one without precedent and there's at least a decent chance that after discussing it with the league they would have been able to retain O'Reilly.

This situation with the Oilers and Tkachev DID have a precedent. It has happened twice already, recently.

was unaware of that. I'll concede that point.

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah but the Flames fired Feaster. MacT probably got a pat on the back and a "Don't worry MacDaddy. Not every bold move will be a home run. We'll get them next time." from Katz.

Speculatory. Also, Feaster remained our gm for a couple months before being fired (3-4 months?)

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I think that was one of the things that ultimately led to bringing Burke in and Feaster getting canned. I would say on a failure scale, Feaster wins, but the rule that fooled Feaster was a little more vague and obscure (and new).

Again see above.


Look, I enjoi the classic "Edmonton is no good" attitude because, quite frankly, they are no good.

I just think its silly to pile on - when a franchise is so pathetically futile - to a cba mishap, when our own franchise very recently committed (or almost did) a similar such mistake. And though you argue that MacT did something foolish that he should have very well known, it was a "no harm no foul" situation. Where as Feaster essentially got bailed out by Colorado matching, otherwise our rebuild would have been set back ~1 season, and again, its his job to know better and he didnt.

[pylon]

Edmonton is not suitable.

[DriveByPunch]

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/podcastpl...d=98&iid=48085

Not sure if this has been posted, but here is MacTavish explaining it all.

Actually points out that he feels bad for the player, but the good news, they raised his stock for the draft! So he will get to play next year.

Edmonton isnt all bad, so much joy from this.

[Keselke]

Thread is hilarious

Ryan O'Reilly

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

Where as Feaster essentially got bailed out by Colorado matching, otherwise our rebuild would have been set back ~1 season, and again, its his job to know better and he didnt.

Yeah, no. There was enough leeway to interpret things that the whole transaction would likely have been voided. Flames would not have gained ROR, nor would they have lost a draft pick.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I really hope this is the gift that keeps on giving.

I think Tkachev has loads of skill, and I still think he will make it as an NHL player. I really hope he rips it up and works his way into the 1st round (though, admittedly, tough to do with his size and how deep this draft is). I hope another team snags him in the draft, and he makes it into the NHL. During every meeting between those teams, I am confident this fiasco would be brought up every single time.

I hope Tkachev gets drafted and becomes a HOF. That would be hilarious, actually.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by the2bears

Yeah, no. There was enough leeway to interpret things that the whole transaction would likely have been voided. Flames would not have gained ROR, nor would they have lost a draft pick.

No matter how many times people want to say this wishful thinking BS, there is ZERO EVIDENCE that this would have happened. The only evidence and statement from the league was totally to the contrary. People need to stop stating this "it never would have happened, the league would have voided it" stance like it's a known fact. It's not.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Oilers announced that Vladimir Tkachev's contract was rejected by the NHL. Issue is he is still draft eligible next June.

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
From what I am being told, there is no way around it.

[Drury18]

Swiped this from a Twitter friend:

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by nik-

No matter how many times people want to say this wishful thinking BS, there is ZERO EVIDENCE that this would have happened. The only evidence and statement from the league was totally to the contrary. People need to stop stating this "it never would have happened, the league would have voided it" stance like it's a known fact. It's not.

So the league clarified this stating the Flames would have lost him on waivers? Guess I missed that.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

meh, its hard for flames fans to point fingers when Feaster's attempted signing of ROR almost cost us Monahan for nothing in return.

well i guess the obvious difference is when Feaster does something idiodic and rediculous, we fire him. And I'm actually kind of glad, we got rid of Feaster before he got to do too much more damage.

[Flash Walken]

This is like that time they wasted a draft pick on an intelligible player, but in reverse.

I hope it was treliving who notified the league.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

I'm actually kind of glad we got rid of Feaster before he got to do too much more damage.

Really? I never would have guess that in light of it being just about the only thing you ever comment on (that, and thinly veiled slights at Iginla).