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Old 02-28-2014, 02:40 PM   #121
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first I heard of it.

Do your parents have a well?
They've got about five well sites on their land in total, one on the same section as their house and the others further away. They're on the Horseshoe Canyon formation, where it's all coal bed methane extraction.

For the most part they've got nothing but positive things to say about Encana, although mostly out of my own curiosity I keep an eye on what's going on there. And I'm not saying everything Encana is using is good; certainly I wouldn't want the used water entering the drinking supply - it does contain methanol, after all. Still, I think that the farming operations (including gasoline tanks, machine repairs, etc.) more or less directly over the aquifer would have posed more of a threat to the drinking supply over the years than relatively minor surface spills of highly-diluted methanol.
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They've got about five well sites on their land in total, one on the same section as their house and the others further away. They're on the Horseshoe Canyon formation, where it's all coal bed methane extraction.

For the most part they've got nothing but positive things to say about Encana, although mostly out of my own curiosity I keep an eye on what's going on there. And I'm not saying everything Encana is using is good; certainly I wouldn't want the used water entering the drinking supply - it does contain methanol, after all. Still, I think that the farming operations (including gasoline tanks, machine repairs, etc.) more or less directly over the aquifer would have posed more of a threat to the drinking supply over the years than relatively minor surface spills of highly-diluted methanol.
Alright, hope everything goes OK for them.
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More wells. More pipelines. More tankers taking product to market. Just do it right and in yhe safest wat possible. Tired of the whiners.


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Old 02-28-2014, 02:57 PM   #124
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first I heard of it.

Do your parents have a well?
Duffman do you take any solace in the fact that there are almost 200,000 wells that have been fracced in Alberta and yet not one documented case of interference in water wells?
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Duffman do you take any solace in the fact that there are almost 200,000 wells that have been fracced in Alberta and yet not one documented case of interference in water wells?
I guess you skipped page 1?
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It would 99% chance of being pure N2 fracs on those types of wells. As nice a frac fluid as you could ask for. Concerns in those areas would be very shallow coal seams relating to depth of the water wells. Hopefully not in the time where companies were stupidly fraccing very, very shallow depths.
What would you consider shallow? I think all of our frac wells were listed between 850 and 900, but actually I'm not sure if the fracfocus reports are in feet or meters. Our water wells are less than 135 feet deep, so I figured it wouldn't be an issue regardless of whether that's feet or meters.

But yeah, agreed on the frac fluid, I think the methanol content was .05%, so it would take an absolutely massive spill to produce any sort of contamination that one would need to worry about.

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Methanol is used as a hydrotest media in cold weather.
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