Should Canada merge with the USA?

[calgarywinning]

Russians have predicted the economic collapse of America to be 2017. They are trying to marshall their people off the US dollar in time for this collapse. Nations that rely on the US Dollar will suffer as reported by the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...dollar-russia/

Also, while the CP debate rages on a record number of US Citizens expatriating has reached new highs according to CNBC

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101195604

[Coach]

Originally Posted by calgarywinning

Russians have predicted the economic collapse of America to be 2017. They are trying to marshall their people off the US dollar in time for this collapse. Nations that rely on the US Dollar will suffer as reported by the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...dollar-russia/

Also, while the CP debate rages on a record number of US Citizens expatriating has reached new highs according to CNBC

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101195604

As a dual citizen I've honestly been considering this. I keep hearing "no, no its a nice advantage you can go work there blah blah..." but really, with the way things are going, citizenship won't matter much for working in one country or the other. Plus, I'd much rather live in Canada anyways (although I have always wanted/still want to live on the East Coast at some point.

But the only advantage I have been graced with so far is filing US taxes....yay.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Sell them Quebec (except Montreal) for a profit and tell them it's Canada.

Fixed. They can have the ROQ. Montreal stays with us.

I would NOT favour any sort of merger, including an EU-style 'economic' merger.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by PIMking

The main reason why I carry a gun is ......?!!

Yep, definitely not interested.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Yep, definitely not interested.

Will you stfu and quit trolling like a little kid?

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Will you stfu and quit trolling like a little kid?

Ha ha sure thing dude.

Originally Posted by PIMking

I carry to protect myself from the thugs who would rather rob someone than make a living legally.

Originally Posted by PIMking

The main reason why I carry a gun is when the idiot that wanted "suicide by cop" here in Tuscaloosa

[Temporary_User]

I would be fine with the U.S. Banning guns if it was an actual ban. Normal police having guns and not allowing citizens to is ridiculous. Britain has it right here.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Well my post was mostly tongue in cheek, but I think you took my point on guns incorrectly. My point is that a psychopath could get a concealed weapon license, just like yourself. But if no one is allowed to carry concealed weapons whats the fear?

How many Canadians in here feel a daily threat of robbery is strong enough to carry a gun? Dont want to start a gun debate, its just interesting that you feel threatened enough by where ever you live that having a gun on your hip is the only way to feel safe. Doesn't that say a lot about the state of your city/state/nation?

No one is allowed to rape children. No one is allowed to drink and drive their car into mini-vans carrying families. No one is allowed to consume bath salts and eats other people's faces. It may be logical to you (based on your previous post) but it is not reality.

I've already stated that despite being surrounded by gun toting folks, I don't have a fear of being killed that has prompted me to carry my own (and I'm comfortable with guns). However, you can't simply dismiss the fear of others because you and I don't share it.

Now, explain to me how not allowing people to possess firearms is going to prevent gun crime. All that accomplishes is punishing law abiding gun owners.

Restrict, monitor and over time you might accompish something.

[Coach]

EDIT: Nvm. Don't want this being a gun control thread.

My original point on gun control was just one reason given as to why Americans and Canadians just couldn't be governed under one system.

[icarus]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

As much as you guys claim to hate the US, you sure flock over the border every single weekend.

Half of my customers are Canadians who 'weekend' in Whitefish. It's astounding how much disposable income you seem to have.

That said, I love each and every one of you. Almost.

Since this thread has gone off topic, I thought I'd let you know Dis that I saw a full-sized billboard advertisement for Whitefish here in London the other day. I couldn't believe it!

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by MattyC

EDIT: Nvm. Don't want this being a gun control thread.

My original point on gun control was just one reason given as to why Americans and Canadians just couldn't be governed under one system.

Good call. Feel free to PM me if you would like to have a constructive and civil discussion. I am game.

[1stLand]

I love Canada.
I wish we paid less taxes like the states but then again having free healthcare is awesome.
I am surprised how many so called patriotic Canadians who live in Alberta have barely even seen a fraction of this country.
Drive across Canada and you will appreciate it more.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by 1stLand

I wish we paid less taxes like the states but then again having free healthcare is awesome.

IMO the value of what we get out of taxes paid is actually pretty decent here (well, in Alberta at least). And seeing some cities/states so hard up, and still keeping taxes so low is just mind boggling.

However one thing I do wish is that mortgage interest was tax deducatble like the US.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I loved my time there, have an American wife, and love many things about that country....but yeah, no thanks. It's a country that's slowly choking itself to death and has lost sight of what made it great.

Having said that, I'll gladly take Hawaii, New York, Maine, Vermont, Washington, and Oregon.

Dis, we want Montana as well

[Plett25]

Originally Posted by 1stLand

I wish we paid less taxes like the states but then again having free healthcare is awesome.

They might pay less in tax but if you want to compare apples to apples:

Canadian tax + Canadian health insurance < US tax + US health insurance

[Plett25]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

However one thing I do wish is that mortgage interest was tax deducatble like the US.

I believe in the US, mortgage interest is deductible, but the gain on the sale of your house is taxable. In Canada, mortgage interest is not deductible, but the gain on the sale of your house isn't taxed either.

I like our system better, and that's before considering the effect of mortgage interest destructibility on housing bubbles.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Now, explain to me how not allowing people to possess firearms is going to prevent gun crime. All that accomplishes is punishing law abiding gun owners.

Uh, because if no one had guns, there probably wouldn't be any gun crimes, not sure how that is confusing. But then if no one had guns, the tyrannical govt will take over right? Like the nazis and pol pot and Stalin etc.

[Daradon]

You guys both have points, but seem to be ignoring them.

On one side DuffMan is right, but only if you start the system like that. Of course having more restrictive gun laws would decrease gun crime. Dramatically if done right. Yes a few will still slip in, but it would cut it down.

However, in the system as it is now, DFF is right, making highly restrictive laws now wouldn't accomplish much, the guns are already there.

There. Settled.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Daradon

You guys both have points, but seem to be ignoring them.

On one side DuffMan is right, but only if you start the system like that. Of course having more restrictive gun laws would decrease gun crime. Dramatically if done right. Yes a few will still slip in, but it would cut it down.

However, in the system as it is now, DFF is right, making highly restrictive laws now wouldn't accomplish much, the guns are already there.

There. Settled.

Ok, so why bother, right? Just leave it the way it is and continue to have the most gun deaths/injuries per capita by far, than any other civilized country. Continue putting guns into the hands of the Lanza, Holmes's, laughner's etc.

Which brings me back to my point, merging with them would be like marrying that psychotic girl who cuts herself. No thanks.

[Daradon]

Hey, I'm not saying 'why bother?' I've argued for more common sense restrictions many times. Background checks, certain bans, etc. The thing is, I believe DFF has too, so watching the two of you go back and forth was kinda painful as you were both arguing the extreme side of your points and not getting anywhere.

As for the merge, the original question was more about economic merger anyway so this over the top patriotism is just problematic. Obviously very few people on either side would want a full merge. It's a dumb question. It would never happen.

OP should have been more clear, especially with the thread title, but it's not about a merge in that sense.