11-23-2013, 11:31 AM
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#121
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Calgary
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^^^ I strongly disagree that small markets aren't profit generators. Examples are saskatchewan, green bay and maybe winnipeg who shouldn't be bringing in a profit while teams like the phoenix coyotes and the new york islanders should.
I'm guessing putting the team in the maritimes and quebec would do better than expected.
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11-25-2013, 12:36 AM
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#122
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Calgary
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I guess I'm part of the lost generation. My father had season tickets and took me to games. After he passed, I never went again. The West Final and Grey Cup were the only games I watched this season. I'm just a casual football fan and everything about the NFL is just much more polished. I'll catch the odd Thursday, Sunday or Monday night game.
I remember two NHL lockouts ago, Brian Burke was on a panel discussing the labour problems of the NHL and said something like "with all due respect to the CFL, there is only one professional sport in Canada". And that's basically it. The CFL appears second-rate, right or wrong.
And I can't believe McMahon still has backless metal benches.
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11-25-2013, 01:08 PM
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#123
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Franchise Player
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I like the idea of one division myself. The crossover now helps with that idea and it certainly would make the league more competitive I think.
I think Quebec City would be very happy to get a team and support it well...BIG interest for football in that area and the natural rivalry with Montreal would be great.
Surprised the league hasnt played an exhibition there yet, they should have had a Hamilton game there this year.
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11-25-2013, 02:09 PM
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#124
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Cheese
I like the idea of one division myself. The crossover now helps with that idea and it certainly would make the league more competitive I think.
I think Quebec City would be very happy to get a team and support it well...BIG interest for football in that area and the natural rivalry with Montreal would be great.
Surprised the league hasnt played an exhibition there yet, they should have had a Hamilton game there this year.
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Based on everything that was said on the radio and in the papers during the Vanier Cup, Quebec City has little to no interest in the CFL, just college football
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11-25-2013, 02:26 PM
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#125
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler
Based on everything that was said on the radio and in the papers during the Vanier Cup, Quebec City has little to no interest in the CFL, just college football
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Perhaps this is a case of "build it and they will come"? If Montreal has a team, I'm sure Quebec would like to show they can support one today. How many Nordique fans support the Habs?
The CFL really needs to push into the double digit territories of teams soon to push itself to the next level. Ultimately, within the next decade, the league should consist of 12 teams. With Ottawa coming back (again, but calling themselves REDBLACKS, who knows if that will even last...) they're at 9 now. In the next 10 years, I would attempt to get a team in Quebec City, the maritimes, and Saskatoon.
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11-25-2013, 02:59 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Joborule
Perhaps this is a case of "build it and they will come"? If Montreal has a team, I'm sure Quebec would like to show they can support one today. How many Nordique fans support the Habs?
The CFL really needs to push into the double digit territories of teams soon to push itself to the next level. Ultimately, within the next decade, the league should consist of 12 teams. With Ottawa coming back (again, but calling themselves REDBLACKS, who knows if that will even last...) they're at 9 now. In the next 10 years, I would attempt to get a team in Quebec City, the maritimes, and Saskatoon.
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Saskatoon is small. Really small. The whole province has a million people, I can't see how they could support two teams.
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11-25-2013, 03:31 PM
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#127
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First Line Centre
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As someone who really enjoys going to the CFL games live, and who has access to tickets for every game, one additional reason I don't go to as many games is because most of the summer games now land on the weekends. Our summers are so short here, and my family likes to head out of town during the summer, specifically on weekends. I basically miss 7-8 games for this reason. In prior seasons there were a lot more Thursday night games, and that was much better for me (get to do both, enjoy the weekends and go to the games).
I also wouldn't think of bringing any kid under 10 to a game at McMahon because of the stadium alone; imagine having to take them to the bathroom...forget it. The Stamps need a dome with a retractable roof, and hopefully some minor league baseball, and soccer can get some use. Failing a dome, we absolutely need the season to end a month earlier (either cut the season by 4 weeks, or start June 1st). I go to all the cold weather games, but even with tickets in hand I'd just watch from home, if it wasn't for the spending time with family (my dad) aspect...
Last edited by Ace; 11-25-2013 at 04:19 PM.
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11-25-2013, 04:05 PM
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#128
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corporatejay
Saskatoon is small. Really small. The whole province has a million people, I can't see how they could support two teams.
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Saskatoon has more people than Regina, who have a football team. If that province is a CFL crazy as they say they are, they should be able to support two teams. It's not like the NHL where they have to support 42 games in a six month span. ~10 games over a four month span should be feasible for a city that doesn't have a pro team.
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11-25-2013, 04:18 PM
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#129
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Joborule
Saskatoon has more people than Regina, who have a football team. If that province is a CFL crazy as they say they are, they should be able to support two teams. It's not like the NHL where they have to support 42 games in a six month span. ~10 games over a four month span should be feasible for a city that doesn't have a pro team.
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People from Saskatoon travel to Regina for the football games. Without their support, the team would not be able to make ends meet based purely on the local market.
Putting a team in Saskatoon would ensure that both Saskatchewan teams would be out of business almost immediately. Neither one of the them would have the corporate or regular people support needed.
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11-25-2013, 04:20 PM
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#130
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by stampsx2
^^^ I strongly disagree that small markets aren't profit generators. Examples are saskatchewan, green bay and maybe winnipeg who shouldn't be bringing in a profit while teams like the phoenix coyotes and the new york islanders should.
I'm guessing putting the team in the maritimes and quebec would do better than expected.
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Green Bay isn't a profit generator. They only make ends meet through revenue sharing. Selling out eight home games a year wouldn't come close to meeting payroll, let alone stadium maintenance costs. Without the shared national TV deal the NFL has, many NFL teams would go under. Just look at major league baseball. How many times do teams like Kansas City, Milwaukee or Seattle win the World Series?
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11-25-2013, 05:23 PM
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#131
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Fusebox
People from Saskatoon travel to Regina for the football games. Without their support, the team would not be able to make ends meet based purely on the local market.
Putting a team in Saskatoon would ensure that both Saskatchewan teams would be out of business almost immediately. Neither one of the them would have the corporate or regular people support needed.
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That's true and I don't have the data to know if there would be enough people in Regina left over to support the team if Saskatoon would have their own since it would take some fans away. It's my assumption they would, but maybe they don't.
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11-25-2013, 06:33 PM
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#132
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fusebox
Green Bay isn't a profit generator. They only make ends meet through revenue sharing. Selling out eight home games a year wouldn't come close to meeting payroll, let alone stadium maintenance costs. Without the shared national TV deal the NFL has, many NFL teams would go under. Just look at major league baseball. How many times do teams like Kansas City, Milwaukee or Seattle win the World Series?
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According to forbes only the detroit lions lost money last year. Green bay was the 12the most valuable team in the nfl. Unless i'm reading this wrong.
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish...ost-money-2012
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12-08-2013, 05:01 PM
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#133
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fusebox
Wide receivers in motion before the ball is snapped doesn't seem gimmicky to you? A point for missing a field goal as long as it doesn't get returned out of the end zone?
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Not trying to start something with fusebox but I quoted here because of the conversation around the CFL having what some people feel are gimmicky. I think that notion is silly because I grew up watching the CFL not the NFL so to me, the NFL is all about gimmick and glitter.
Anyway, I know this is wiki, but I found this page to be an interesting read if you want to know why and how the CFL and NFL rules came to be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...adian_football
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