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Old 10-07-2013, 11:07 AM   #121
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I have been all for trading Glencross since the rebuild began. He makes $2.55M for this year and next and you know he will be looking for a nice raise when his contract expires as a 32 year old. His value is likely as high as it will get this season I think the Flames should try and cash in. The NMC might make it impossible though
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:08 AM   #122
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Glencross for Brayden Schenn?

obviously you do that deal...I don't think they do though
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:12 AM   #123
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In my mind, Glencross is the last of the country club needing to be excised.

David Booth absolutely blew him up last night and Glencross had no answer for it emotionally. He hasn't checked out this season, because I don't think he's checked IN yet.

Another couple of posters have said it, he sticks out like a sore thumb on this team right now.

Addition by subtraction?
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I couldn't give two hoots if he's an Alberta boy and has roots around here. He's an NHL player first and a country bumpkin second. If we can improve this team by moving him out, you do it...
Glencross has the last word about whether he is an NHL player first, or a "county bumpkin" at heart. I tend to agree with Warrener and don't believe that he will waive to accept any trade. He just doesn't seem built that way in the same sense that most professional athletes are.
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If Glencross is available, then several teams should be are interested. But he does have a no movement clause..
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:16 AM   #126
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At the time his contract was signed, Glencross wanted to stay on the team and the team wanted him to stay here. Things have changed. A lot has changed. With a new coach, GM, president of hockey opps and a new direction for the team it isn't a stretch to think that Glencross might want out or that the team might want him out.

I think he should be traded as I don't see him as the kind of guy I want players like Monahan to look to for leadership.
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...He hasn't checked out this season, because I don't think he's checked IN yet.

Another couple of posters have said it, he sticks out like a sore thumb on this team right now.

Addition by subtraction?
Only IF he would agree to accept a trade, and I'm not confident that he would. Unfortunately for the Flames, Glencross holds all the cards here, and as much as they may want to move him at some point in the next two years, they can't if he doesn't want to leave.

Glencross provides good value for his contract, and that is a big part of why it includes a NTC. Unfortunately, this also means that he is probably a Flame for the duration of the whole deal, regardless of what management would like to do.
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In my mind, Glencross is the last of the country club needing to be excised.

David Booth absolutely blew him up last night and Glencross had no answer for it emotionally. He hasn't checked out this season, because I don't think he's checked IN yet.

Another couple of posters have said it, he sticks out like a sore thumb on this team right now.

Addition by subtraction?
I can only wonder who is next on your country club list.

I think I have a pretty good idea.
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At the time his contract was signed, Glencross wanted to stay on the team and the team wanted him to stay here. Things have changed. A lot has changed. With a new coach, GM, president of hockey opps and a new direction for the team it isn't a stretch to think that Glencross might want out or that the team might want him out.
Based on everything I have seen and heard from him in public, I just don't think he cares enough about hockey to leave Calgary.
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Only IF he would agree to accept a trade, and I'm not confident that he would. Unfortunately for the Flames, Glencross holds all the cards here, and as much as they may want to move him at some point in the next two years, they can't if he doesn't want to leave.

Glencross provides good value for his contract, and that is a big part of why it includes a NTC. Unfortunately, this also means that he is probably a Flame for the duration of the whole deal, regardless of what management would like to do.
Trade him to the oilers.
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:21 AM   #131
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This proposal is probably going to get slammed but I am throwing it out there anyway.

Glencross, Baertschi, Butler
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Simmonds, Couturier, Coburn

Flyers get 2 scoring LW and a cheap D. They shake up the room and save significant cap.

Flames continue to get bigger and harder to play against. Simmonds fits the age range the Flames are lacking and is a RW which we need. Coburn is a top 4 D that actually gives Calgary a very respectable top 4. Russel slides back to the 3rd pairing. Calgary gets a big 6'4 center signed cheap for 2 more sesasons after this and this allows them to send Monahan back to junior.

I know many area against trading Sven and I am really only including him because of what Burke said and theorizing that Burke is not a big fan of him. Coutts is the same age and would be a huge piece of the rebuild. Simmonds is an upgrade over Glencross imo and Coburn is a huge upgrade over Butler and is another Calgarian
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:21 AM   #132
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Flames should not be in a rush to move Glencross. His value will not go down this season, or even next. Glencross will still pot in 20+ goals and be a guy you can play from lines 1-4. However, he should not be thought of as untouchable either. No rush in sending him out, and let a desperate team over-pay for him.

Convincing him to waive his no-trade will be tough. He didn't even want to be asked to do so, but having a no-trade is often more of having say in where you are going. Few players would stick on a team where they feel unwanted. Regehr didn't want to go to Buffalo, but Buffalo showed that they wanted him enough so he moved.

It is just interesting that both teams are scouting one another quite a bit at this point, so there must be some conversations happening. I wonder if Read is the guy the Flames are really looking at, or Coburn. Really hope if they trade Glencross, a first is included as part of a deal, but if the Flames are indeed getting a Read or Coburn, they would have to add to get a first. It could very well be a lottery pick this year.
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:23 AM   #133
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Man, is this place wierd. Last year, when Sven was our only high end prospect, the idea of trading him was unthinkable on here. But now when we have Monahan (our new shiny toy), suddenly Sven is not untouchable, he's lazy, doesn't work hard....
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This proposal is probably going to get slammed but I am throwing it out there anyway.

Glencross, Baertschi, Butler
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Simmonds, Couturier, Coburn
This is one of the more reasonable trade proposals you'll find on the internet. I'd look long and hard at doing this if it was actually on the table. The thought of Butler in Philly makes me giggle an evil laugh.
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:28 AM   #135
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"Hi, my name is Curtis. I would be one of the top UFAs in any season (for example, I am unquestionably better than this Clarkson guy), but I was willing to take a ~50% pay cut, because I want to stay in Calgary, and only want play for the Flames. Just to be clear, I am a two-way, physical player, with one of the highest shot% in the NHL, I can (and have) played entire seasons on every line and in every situation. And I make $0.5m more than SOB. I'm willing to leave millions of dollars on the table, every year, because there's no other team that I want to play for except Calgary."


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Man, is this place wierd. Last year, when Sven was our only high end prospect, the idea of trading him was unthinkable on here. But now when we have Monahan (our new shiny toy), suddenly Sven is not untouchable, he's lazy, doesn't work hard....
It's not just Monahan. I think a lot of fans are feeling more confident with a prospect pool that has improved significantly in the past year with additions of Poirier, Klimchuk, and the tremendous strides taken by Gaudreau and Gillies.
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:30 AM   #137
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One of my favourite things about the way they are playing this year is the speed through the neutral zone.

The way they would coast through centre last year, and either button hook or drop pass at the blueline, drove me nuts.

The only guy doing that now is Glencross and - while it is only 3 games in - I agree that he currently sticks out on this team.

I believe you need vets and would not have been willing to consider this in the offseason, but with what we have seen so far, I am definitely willing to consider it for the right price (we should definitely be over-paid for his contract).

I would move him for Simmonds, but I doubt that gives them enough cap relief to bother.

If it were Mezaros, it would have to include a 1st.

Straight up for Braden Schenn, but that doesn't help their cap so why would they?

Coburn and a 2nd makes sense.

To those saying that BB loves the Schenns:
1) he isn't the GM
2) he traded Luke away not that long ago

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I would imagine Glencross could at least fetch a 1st based on below average cap hit and offensive potential.
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:33 AM   #139
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I would only trade him if the team he was going to thought that he was a final piece to their puzzle and were willing to overpay big time.
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would LOVE to get Philly's 1st because there is a real good chance they don't make the playoffs.

They might be interested in a package of Glencross and Berra (though I don't think I'm ready to move out a goalie at this point)
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