I sure hope so....although I have a feeling that going after "Columbia graduate, Ranger Rover driving, executive guy" looks like a much juicier target than going after one of your fellow thugs who's probably also an "aspiring rapper".
Somewhat related question to you and any other lawyers out there...but is there such a thing as litigation insurance? What do people with money/perceived money do to protect themselves from this kind of thing? Its one thing to be innocent...its another thing to have to go into debt to prove it.
I'm not sure. Directors and Officers of corporations have insurance that protects them from suits but I'm not sure if that's something offered to the average citizen. I imagine you could get it, they sold insurance on J Lo's ass so nothing seems out of the realm of possibility.
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A second suspect was arrested in connection with an attack on a SUV driver who was swarmed by bikers on a New York street, police said Tuesday.
Allen Edwards, 42, faces charges of reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing for the Sunday incident, the New York City Police Department said.
Here's comments from the sister and mother of the biker who was hit and is now in a coma.
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"I don't condone the violence, there's no need for it," Mieses' sister Margie Mejia told WBZ, but "I'm glad they chased him down and they stopped him."
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At this time, the SUV driver is not facing any charges.
"It's not going to bring my son's legs back, because it's not going to make him walk again," Mieses' mother said, "But justice has to be served."
Not sure if I'm misreading here or what, but are you suggesting you would have gone on some sort of GTA V style rampage running over people? I don't think this is the first time you've suggested doing something like that either. Time to chill out dude. Protecting yourself and your family is one thing, murder is a little bit different.
Not misreading at all. I would have run over as much of these scumbags as possible until they stopped following me and my family.
Chill out? The guy was beaten to a pulp and had his face slashed with a knife. These guys were let off the hook.
I know what I would have done if I was surrounded, threatened and chased like that with my family in the car. I would have picked off every single one of them. I wouldn't even think twice. You want to bring a motorcycle to an SUV fight? You're gonna lose.
I wonder how this story would play out if the dumbass biker didn't post his highly incriminating video to youtube? Was he thinking that this would get the bikers off the hook and would prove the RR was trying to run everyone over?
I wonder what blow back will happen to that guy?
Goes back to mob mentality and in particular that line from Men in Black
"A person is smart, people are stupid"
I highly doubt bike dude breakchecks a SUV if he's riding by himself.
Not misreading at all. I would have run over as much of these scumbags as possible until they stopped following me and my family.
Chill out? The guy was beaten to a pulp and had his face slashed with a knife. These guys were let off the hook.
Yes chill out, your tough guy routine, if taken into the real world, would have resulted in at least 20 years in prison.
The driver did what he had to do to protect himself and his family, he has a right to do that and he'd have a strong defence if he was to be charged. You're talking about going beyond that.
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Yes chill out, your tough guy routine, if taken into the real world, would have resulted in at least 20 years in prison.
The driver did what he had to do to protect himself and his family, he has a right to do that and he'd have a strong defence if he was to be charged. You're talking about going beyond that.
Yeah, being a tough guy means protecting your family from scumbag thugs
He obviously didn't do enough as they still caught him and beat him to an inch of his life. It would be a fun game of bumper SUV's and scumbag bikers if that was me.
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Not misreading at all. I would have run over as much of these scumbags as possible until they stopped following me and my family.
Chill out? The guy was beaten to a pulp and had his face slashed with a knife. These guys were let off the hook.
How would mowing down a bunch of bikers and getting thrown in jail going to be good for your family? I doubt it'd be good for your wife and young child for you to be in prison for the next 10 years. I think the guy did the best he could given the circumstances. He tried to escape the mob, but didn't actively look to run over any bikers. He took a massive beating at the end, but at least his wife and daughter escaped unscathed.
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I don't know how things works in the states. But the cops bring forward the concept of charges and the district attorney or grand jury decides to prosecute.
I would think its still not for sure that the SUV driver will not be charged. But the bikers posting the videos is the ultimate in self incriminating stupidity. Is there anyway that the video can be strickened from a trial?
We've seen a lot of people posting videos of criminal activities, the failure of intellect meets social media. The biker in Calgary driving like an idiot. The teens partying at and destroying a former NFL players house, the graduating teens in Ontario that destroyed a hotel, and this. All live and in color. Are the laws of self incrimination going to have to be evaluated and changed?
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I know what I would have done if I was surrounded, threatened and chased like that with my family in the car. I would have picked off every single one of them. I wouldn't even think twice. You want to bring a motorcycle to an SUV fight? You're gonna lose.
that's where you go from justifiable homicide and no changes or lawsuit, too at least manslaughter and 5 years in jail and life in and out of the courts.
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The only thing I may have done differently as the driver of the SUV is possibly swerve sideways at the pricks coming up beside me, and if I had to stop due to traffic in front of me, I definitely would have put it in reverse and backed over whoever was on my ass. I would have kept the vehicle in motion for as long as possible.
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Yeah, being a tough guy means protecting your family from scumbag thugs
He obviously didn't do enough as they still caught him and beat him to an inch of his life. It would be a fun game of bumper SUV's and scumbag bikers if that was me.
You really think you're above everything don't you? Do you understand the difference between protecting yourself and intentionally running down people? Do you comprehend consequences? I really hope this is just an online persona, because you could be in for a rude awakening one day if you take that approach into the real world.
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^^To be clear, he was in a gantlet with no escape and his life was at risk. He had no option but to continue on, as it shows in the youtube video. The actions were completely reasonable and the police seem to agree. Clearly, when cornered later on his was lucky to have survived
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You really think you're above everything don't you? Do you understand the difference between protecting yourself and intentionally running down people? Do you comprehend consequences? I really hope this is just an online persona, because you could be in for a rude awakening one day if you take that approach into the real world.
Thanks for your concern valo the all knowing condescending poster of CP.
I really hope you don't play your CP persona in real life either. You're always mad and angry at something and your condescending posts make me laugh so keep them coming.
How would mowing down a bunch of bikers and getting thrown in jail going to be good for your family? I doubt it'd be good for your wife and young child for you to be in prison for the next 10 years. I think the guy did the best he could given the circumstances. He tried to escape the mob, but didn't actively look to run over any bikers. He took a massive beating at the end, but at least his wife and daughter escaped unscathed.
Well at the time I wouldn't know if they were going to harm my family or not so I would take my chances at being in jail and them being fine.
I think he did a fine job too. Paralysing one of them hopefully sends a strong message to these guys. You're on a bike, the SUV will win every single time.
Thanks for your concern valo the all knowing condescending poster of CP.
I really hope you don't play your CP persona in real life either. You're always mad and angry at something and your condescending posts make me laugh so keep them coming.
Glad I entertain, now go out there and play real life tough guy!!! I look forward to hearing about the results.
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Here's comments from the sister and mother of the biker who was hit and is now in a coma.
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"I don't condone the violence, there's no need for it," Mieses' sister Margie Mejia told WBZ, but "I'm glad they chased him down and they stopped him."
Maybe I should lay off considering her brother is in a coma but what a stupid comment. If it wasn't for the violence there would have never been a reason to chase him down - he stopped! Everyone saw the SUV stop, it's undeniable at this point, it was when the thugs attacked him he got out of there.
I know it's terrible and I shouldn't but the more his family talks the less sympathy I have for him. In the case he was just a more-or-less innocent bystander it sucks he's paralyzed due to his friends' actions but the more his family talks about justice against the driver the more I assume he was an entitled asshat like the rest of the bikers and his family. Maybe that's unfair.
