A lot of the the recent championship teams have had depth built from late rounds that have contributed. Blackhawks had 8 players drafted out of the first round. I would say that is pay dirt. Probably the same can be said for their last team that won.
Boston also had Krejci in the second. LA was also full of late picks that contributed heavily to their cup. Bottom line hitting pay dirt in later rounds does nothing but help with depth turning a team around quickly. You hit enough late and add in some good first rounders and you have the making of a contender. This is where I think the Oilers have failed and it has increased the time it takes for the rebuild because they are only getting one player a year.
Regarding the flames late picks, I did temper that with a "if they continue to progress". Can't blame me for being optimistic.
Well I agree that find late round gems is certainly very helpful in building a team, I think it is just one tool of many in the box for a GM. I don't believe you can count on late round picks to help a team rebuild because the hit rate is sporadic at best. Even the best drafting teams have stretches of years where they don't get quality players outside the first round.
The teams that don't make moves and wait around for picks to come through are the teams that stay at the bottom for the longest. The Oilers are a good example of that.
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Well I agree that find late round gems is certainly very helpful in building a team, I think it is just one tool of many in the box for a GM. I don't believe you can count on late round picks to help a team rebuild because the hit rate is sporadic at best. Even the best drafting teams have stretches of years where they don't get quality players outside the first round.
The teams that don't make moves and wait around for picks to come through are the teams that stay at the bottom for the longest. The Oilers are a good example of that.
That is the difference between a championship calibre team and a wannabe team. Championship quality teams don't wait for the late rounders to come in they come in because they are good picks that force their way onto the team. Teams that sit around waiting for their picks to develop are the teams that lack depth and are outside looking in.
I still find it hilarious how Oiler fans think their rebuild started when they selected Taylor Hall. Clearly they've blocked out the original rebuild of Nilsson, Cogliano and crew from their minds.
Wow you're clearly right! Those links totally prove when the rebuilds started
Well it shows that the Flames were only a terrible team last season while the Oilers have been terrible for a very long time or are you suggesting the Flames were trying to rebuild while signing and trading players like Cammalleri, Tanguay, and going after Brad Richards?
The Oilers have been rebuilding for eternity and will be for years to come with that clown management old boys club running the team. I like the Flames upcoming team a whole lot more than I like the midget Oilers. We are building a team while the Oilers are building a top line. Congratulations on having such a soft first line that couldn't fight their way out of a Kleenex without Hall throwing out his shoulder or Hopkins. The Oilers would likely make Hopkins come back early like they did last season though.
"It's something I've got to look into and take of," said Nugent-Hopkins. "It's something that's been nagging at me for a couple years.
"It got a little bit worse and it's something that has to be taken care of eventually. We all decided it was time."
Yeah, let's just let the kid play with a shoulder injury, shoulders aren't that important anyways and lets let him play for a couple years just so he injures it even more.
Hopkins looked like Rico Fata last season thanks to whatever doctor runs the Oilers.
I still find it hilarious how Oiler fans think their rebuild started when they selected Taylor Hall. Clearly they've blocked out the original rebuild of Nilsson, Cogliano and crew from their minds.
I would say it is fair to consider the rebuild started when Smyth was traded to the Islanders. However, that was quickly changed by Lowe when he offersheeted Penner and signed a 31 yr old Souray to a big contract. At that point, the Oilers were attempting to make the playoffs again. This was even further illustrated when they moved young Stoll and Greene for an aging Visnovsky (who was a star defender at the time), they were trying to make the playoffs and finished 9th and 11th those seasons. The Flames from 2009-10 to 2010-11 were 10th place both seasons. Both teams tried to trade/sign for big name players (Bouwmeester, Visnovsky, Jokinen, Souray), but weren't simply good enough. At some point with disastrous injuries and disgruntled, declining veterans on board in 2009-10 season for the Oilers, they rebuilded the rebuild by tanking that season for Hall then the following 2 seasons for RNH and Yakupov.
yr 4 of a 5 yr rebuild. I think the management team wants one more top pick (Ekblad) to complete it.
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I would take Sequin 10 time out of 10 before I took Hall, I said it on draft day that drafting Hallover the TS was possibly one of the dumbest moves that Lowe made
