05-31-2013, 01:12 PM
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#121
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Rumor from HF that the Flames (along with the Blues, Habs, Wild, Kings and Pens) interviewed Laurent Dauphin
Ranked 28th NA skater by Central Scouting. 6'0'' 166lb center.
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05-31-2013, 01:37 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Wouldn't basically all the teams interview all the players in the concensus top 60?
How can you tell who will be available when you pick or even what picks you might have if you are trading up or down?
If on Draft day the Flames are liable to get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Tanguay or Stempniak or Stajan..... You sure would want to know as much as you can about the guys that are available at that pick.
You are making multi-million dollar decisions here and your scouting staff, psychological analysis and data gathering is really really cheap in comparison.
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05-31-2013, 01:43 PM
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#123
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Wouldn't basically all the teams interview all the players in the concensus top 60?
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There is no such thing as a consensus top 60. There are over a 100 players at the draft combine and limited interview time. Teams will interview the players they are most interested in.
For example 28 players interviewed Adam Erne at the combine. Pittsburgh and Dallas decided not to interview him at all even though he is projected to be a 1st round pick.
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05-31-2013, 01:52 PM
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#124
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Much different tone from the GM's in this years draft. I do not recall last year or the year before GM's openly stating that their picks are open for trading. Tallon saying he is open to trading down is something I would never have imagined him saying publicly.
Likely means that this draft is deep and stocking up on extra assets is a good choice for a lot of teams. So maybe the Flames do have a real shot at MacKonnon.
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Or Tallon is the new Burke and misses the Chicago spot-light?
Looking at his roster he has a bunch of guys that are too old (or not good enough) to have dumped at the deadline.
3 of Florida's top 4 defensemen (TOI) are Campbell (34), Kuba (36), Weaver (34) who are all locked up for next year. He has Jovanoski (36) signed for 2 more seasons
Brodie plus next year's 1st for Mackinnon? Maybe switch Pittsburgh's 1st for their 2nd (#31)
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05-31-2013, 01:56 PM
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#125
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
There is no such thing as a consensus top 60. There are over a 100 players at the draft combine and limited interview time. Teams will interview the players they are most interested in.
For example 28 players interviewed Adam Erne at the combine. Pittsburgh and Dallas decided not to interview him at all even though he is projected to be a 1st round pick.
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Penguins do not pick until #90. Did they interview anyone that was projected to be a 1st round pick?
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05-31-2013, 02:11 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
There is no such thing as a consensus top 60. There are over a 100 players at the draft combine and limited interview time. Teams will interview the players they are most interested in.
For example 28 players interviewed Adam Erne at the combine. Pittsburgh and Dallas decided not to interview him at all even though he is projected to be a 1st round pick.
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Really? No Time? Limited interview space? If Erne has time to be interviewed by 28 teams it would be reasonable that all the prospects have enough time. That's what they showed up for.
Would NHL teams not have enough staff to conduct interviews? What would their scouts be making a year? Not enough gms, assistant gms, coaches and scouts to do interviews? They couldn't go a hire a group of professional HR consultants at $500/hr for a couple of days to conduct interviews???
Buffalo paid the Flames $3M for a 2nd round pick..... The amount that they ate of Kotaliks contract PLUS got a lop-sided trade of Regehr for Butler, Rammo and Byron.
If the Flames are not prepared...Did not interview them. when someone falls through to their #97 pick that they did not expect to be there then I think I have identified a problem.
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05-31-2013, 02:34 PM
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#127
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Really? No Time? Limited interview space? If Erne has time to be interviewed by 28 teams it would be reasonable that all the prospects have enough time. That's what they showed up for.
Would NHL teams not have enough staff to conduct interviews? What would their scouts be making a year? Not enough gms, assistant gms, coaches and scouts to do interviews? They couldn't go a hire a group of professional HR consultants at $500/hr for a couple of days to conduct interviews???
Buffalo paid the Flames $3M for a 2nd round pick..... The amount that they ate of Kotaliks contract PLUS got a lop-sided trade of Regehr for Butler, Rammo and Byron.
If the Flames are not prepared...Did not interview them. when someone falls through to their #97 pick that they did not expect to be there then I think I have identified a problem.
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There are only 2 days to interview 107 prospects at the combine.
How long is a good solid job interview? 30-45 minutes? plus say 5-10 minutes before to prepare a strategy for the interview and another 5-10 minutes after the interview to confer opinions and impressions amongst the interviewers?
Let say 45 minutes total interview time for each prospect times 107 is 4815 minutes or 80 hours of interview time in a 48 hour period.
Splitting up the decision makers on the Flames final list so they can do interviews in parallel is a waste of time. They all need to be in the same interview so they can ask followup questions and get impressions instead of trying to do it 2nd hand at later meetings. It is not like this is the first and only contact the Flames have with these players in the year. The scouts have been talking to the players, coaches, and families through out the year.
Also it is not like they cannot request an interview after the combine is over.
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05-31-2013, 02:48 PM
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#128
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Originally Posted by T@T
Problem is Ottawa will likely suck bad again this year and that wont help him at all, the flames have no expectations for playoffs so if he's remotely ready he should play.
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I would want to see him spend another year in junior.
If Ottawa sucks again next year, I wonder if the Flames would have any sway in getting him traded...
"If you are willing to trade him to a contending team, we will send him down and you can get assets for him. If not, we would rather keep him here than have him on the 67s"
Seems like a reasonable stance from the Flames to me.
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05-31-2013, 02:49 PM
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#129
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Did anyone ever here who it was that the Flames took out to dinner? All we heard before was that it was a European.
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05-31-2013, 02:51 PM
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#130
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Did anyone ever here who it was that the Flames took out to dinner? All we heard before was that it was a European.
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Nichushkin i believe.
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05-31-2013, 03:06 PM
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#131
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Aaron Portzline @Aportzline now Russian prospect Valeri Nichushkin declined to answer at least two teams when asked in interviews if he'd play in AHL before NHL debut.
Aaron Portzline @Aportzline 32s Made it pretty clear to media today, however, that the AHL would not be an option for him.
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05-31-2013, 03:49 PM
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#132
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Lazar was interviewed by 26 teams:
Curtis Lazar @CurtisLazar95 30 May All 26 interviews are done, didn't stumble upon many unusual questions. Getting ready for the physical testing tomorrow #NHLcombine
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05-31-2013, 03:53 PM
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#133
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Nichushkin i believe.
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Could have easily been Barkov or Lindholm. All I heard the Flames confirm is the player was European
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05-31-2013, 07:53 PM
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#134
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Nichushkin i believe.
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Do you have some reason to think that, or were you just speculating?
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05-31-2013, 08:00 PM
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#135
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Location: Abbotsford, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Could have easily been Barkov or Lindholm. All I heard the Flames confirm is the player was European
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Technically Russians are Asian...
*nerd snort*
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05-31-2013, 08:20 PM
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#136
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire
Technically Russians are Asian...
*nerd snort*
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Ummm Pierre, part of Russia is in Europe
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05-31-2013, 08:21 PM
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#137
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire
Technically Russians are Asian...
*nerd snort*
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Isn't that country continentaly separated by the Urals where one third is European and the two thirds asian? Hence Eurasian?
EDIT: Actually you are technically right. Geographically no. But since Moscow is on the Asian continent it is considered Asian.
The more you know!
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05-31-2013, 08:22 PM
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#138
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire
Technically Russians are Asian...
*nerd snort*
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Depends on which side of Chelyabinsk he's from.
*nerd one-up*
(And Moscow is in the European part of Russia.)
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05-31-2013, 08:27 PM
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#139
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Isn't that country continentaly separated by the Urals where one third is European and the two thirds asian? Hence Eurasian?
EDIT: Actually you are technically right. Geographically no. But since Moscow is on the Asian continent it is considered Asian.
The more you know!
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05-31-2013, 08:31 PM
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#140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
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Its a google answer.
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