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Old 04-29-2013, 01:12 PM   #121
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Do you really think that Tangs can't fetch you at least a 2nd?
With 3 more years left and his level of compete? No.
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:13 PM   #122
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Tanguay is getting bought out.

He would be the only guy that even remotely makes sense.
Doubt it, 10.5(7)M dollars is an awful lot of scratch to buy out when you don't need the cap space. Personally I think Tanguay has trade value we might need to take dollars back but I could see Tanguay being traded for a pick with the Flames taking some dollars back to sweeten the deal.

IMO, If we're gonna buy someone out it will be Sarich.
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:15 PM   #124
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I don't disagree but I think we could get fairly decent value for Tanguay and even Stajan if he continues to play well at the beginning of next season. I guess I don't see the point of wasting money when we could accomplish the same thing with trades.

Do you really think that Tangs can't fetch you at least a 2nd?
I agree that a trade would be preferrable, but I wonder if they didn't try and move Tanguay at the deadline and there were no takers. I think Stajan is tradeable after his play this year but I think they need to move a soft winger or two and add size there.

I'm guessing that a buyout is the the least preferrable and last option for management, but I'm happy they are considering it if it's to add size and grit.
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27 pts in 40 games on a team that fell apart is hardly buy out worthy when he's only making 3.5

At worst you get a 3rd round pick. You guys are undervaluing Tanguay quite a bit. He had a crap season but definitely not bad enough to warrant a buy out.

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I agree that a trade would be preferrable, but I wonder if they didn't try and move Tanguay at the deadline and there were no takers. I think Stajan is tradeable after his play this year but I think they need to move a soft winger or two and add size there.

I'm guessing that a buyout is the the least preferrable and last option for management, but I'm happy they are considering it if it's to add size and grit.
We were probably trying to get good value for him or the decision was made to keep him so that we're not icing an AHL team?

Big difference between a trade to maximize value mid season and a trade to just get rid of someone.

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Old 04-29-2013, 01:20 PM   #126
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Hmmm, so reading through everything Feaster said (and taking the Flames recent drafting emphasis into account) I wouldn't bet against Monahan (Center, Size, Hockey IQ and work ethic high by reports) being the Flames pick... I'd prefer Lindholm but I'd be happy with Monahan.
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:20 PM   #127
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Listening to the conference on fan960...

Feaster would not say his name, but pretty much confirmed that the Flames went hard after Brandon Prust last off season.

Expanding on compliance buyout, will be used if they feel its needed because of a direction change.
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Whew! Listening to the radio (not checking to see if this has been said already) it's a wonderful feeling to hear that Feaster said that our pick (6th, 7th or 1st) is basically untouchable and that it would be in play if it was packaged with something else to attempt to move up. Soooooo glad to hear that they aren't going to trade it to trade down.
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:26 PM   #129
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27 pts in 40 games on a team that fell apart is hardly buy out worthy when he's only making 3.5

At worst you get a 3rd round pick. You guys are undervaluing Tanguay quite a bit. He had a crap season but definitely not bad enough to warrant a buy out.



We were probably trying to get good value for him or the decision was made to keep him so that we're not icing an AHL team?

Big difference between a trade to maximize value mid season and a trade to just get rid of someone.
Unfortunately we will never know. If he is bought out I think that pretty much means there are no takers. Like I said, a trade would obviously be preferrable but personally, I don't care how they do it, as long as they get tougher to play against.
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:27 PM   #130
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Listening to the conference on fan960...

Feaster would not say his name, but pretty much confirmed that the Flames went hard after Brandon Prust last off season.

Expanding on compliance buyout, will be used if they feel its needed because of a direction change.


I heard an interview with Prust earlier this year in which he flat out stated that his choice boiled down to Montreal or Calgary.
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:27 PM   #131
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Say the Flames were picking top 3, would you trade down three spots for the 6th, the 22nd and the 30th pick?
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:29 PM   #132
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...uh, it's pretty widely known that there are 4 elite prospects at the top of the draft this year.

It's not like Jay is the only one who knows it.

I can't believe you're actually criticizing him for that. That is ridiculous.
Hardly ridiculous.

I would much prefer a GM that plays his cards close to the chest and let his actions do the talking. Everyone's draft board is different, so I don't know there is a consensus top 4. For example, how much separation is there between someone like Barkov and Lindholm? Perhaps Monahan is higher on someone's board than another.

Comments such as the ones Feaster made put him in a tougher position to bargain IMO.
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In MacTavish's morning presser he suggested that if the guy the Oiler's want isn't there at their selection spot 7-8 they would consider trading their 1st with a team who has multiple 1st round picks .....
I think there are a couple teams that fit that criteria, the Flames and someone else, although I'm not sure who ....?
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Feaster also plans on signing Brodie before July 5th
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:32 PM   #135
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Expanding on compliance buyout, will be used if they feel its needed because of a direction change.
This, to me, just screams Tanguay.

Obviously getting anything in return is better than a buyout, losing him through waivers is better than a buyout (is waivers required prior to a compliance buyout?) but a buyout is better than having him on a team trying to go in another direction.

When the Habs were awful and not competing, Cammellari called his team out. When his buddy and the team's top D-man get traded, Tanguay gets distracted and his game falls apart. I know which guy I want to keep and which guy I would resort to buying out to get him away from younger players.
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...uh, it's pretty widely known that there are 4 elite prospects at the top of the draft this year.

It's not like Jay is the only one who knows it.

I can't believe you're actually criticizing him for that. That is ridiculous.
Yes and No. Not a horrible comment because it is probably true. The problem is that the flames could be drafting in the 6th spot where they might get one of them or just miss on one of them.

Not hard to think that if the flames draft 6th, TSN asks Feaster if the kid sitting next to him was one of the 4 he was talking about. If he is not, Feaster has to lie.

Hopefully we either win the draft, trade up for one of them ( also long shot) or one of them falls to the flames.
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I heard an interview with Prust earlier this year in which he flat out stated that his choice boiled down to Montreal or Calgary.
I'm surprised he even gave consideration to a team that's already traded him twice.
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I heard an interview with Prust earlier this year in which he flat out stated that his choice boiled down to Montreal or Calgary.
Yup, it was in the papers also with direct quotes from Prust. If i remember right Prust would have made more money in Calgary because of the lower taxes.
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i'm surprised he even gave consideration to a team that's already traded him twice.
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In MacTavish's morning presser he suggested that if the guy the Oiler's want isn't there at their selection spot 7-8 they would consider trading their 1st with a team who has multiple 1st round picks .....
I think there are a couple teams that fit that criteria, the Flames and someone else, although I'm not sure who ....?
If the oilers want the flames 23rd and 30th picks for the number 7 we would easily do it. I suspect that MacT would covet the jackets 14th pick and the 20-30 picks they have with the kings and rangers
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