He's referring to Mississippi recently ratifying the Constitutional amendment to ban slavery, but obviously slavery was illegal throughout the United States since 1865. Mississippi attempted to ratify the amendment in 1995, but didn't properly document it, so they went through the formalities a few months ago as a symbolic gesture.
His claim that people knew about it and did nothing was untrue though, as it came as a shock to just about everyone that Mississippi still hadn't officially ratified the amendment when a professor made the discovery last year.
In your eyes, it must be all right that she was lied to about marriage, kids, etc. during her prime years.
He probably was a great teammate, like the Tweets say. Give the whole story then. Looks like the woman got screwed (pardon the pun). 8 years was long enough for him to decide and to have come clean, and it wasn't "society's fault."
So in your eyes is it all right that the reason she was lied to was that Jason Collins was forced to lie to himself? To tell himself that the only way he could ever be accepted was to be someone he was not? To spend his life afraid of the consequences of ever revealing himself?
You have absolutely no right to tell someone else when they should decide to "come clean", and quite frankly the use of that phrase and the insinuation that there is anything dirty about his revelation is just plain sad.
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The Wizards reported that 100% of personalized jerseys ordered from their online store yesterday were “Collins 98,” according to the Washington Post’s sports writer Dan Steinberg.
Judy and Dennis Shepard, the parents of Matthew Shepard, discussed what Jason Collins’s announcement means to the gay rights movement and spoke about how touched they were to know how much Matthew Shepard’s story resonated with Jason Collins.
“It made me cry to know that Matt’s story still has an impact on young people–we knew it did, but for Jason to acknowledge Matt’s story and for him to come out at all at this time in his career and his life is really pretty amazing,” Judy Shepard told MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell.
In your eyes, it must be all right that she was lied to about marriage, kids, etc. during her prime years.
He probably was a great teammate, like the Tweets say. Give the whole story then. Looks like the woman got screwed (pardon the pun). 8 years was long enough for him to decide and to have come clean, and it wasn't "society's fault."
It's an irrelevant point to focus on. Its very likely that about 50 - 80% of straight NBA players are cheating on their wives. It's terrible but it's not the issue to focus on.
(estimates in the general population say 25% - 75% of spouses are cheating, I would expect rates in the nba would be higher just based on fame and opportunity).
It sucks she was lied to, but he was also lying to himself trying to do what he felt was right. The fact that people feel they need to do that to be accepted is pathetic.
As had every previous prom, they have never been school operated. It's great that the students took the step to change things, but this was never a result of any school policies.
They were put on more by the parents not the students from what I understand and were even known as white prom and black prom. The students took it upon themselves against many parents wishes. I was never trying to imply it was a school policy..heck that might have made it understandable given the slow moving bureacracy. The fact that these things were arranged and sponsored by parents and kept segregated is quite frankly disgusting.
He's referring to Mississippi recently ratifying the Constitutional amendment to ban slavery, but obviously slavery was illegal throughout the United States since 1865. Mississippi attempted to ratify the amendment in 1995, but didn't properly document it, so they went through the formalities a few months ago as a symbolic gesture.
His claim that people knew about it and did nothing was untrue though, as it came as a shock to just about everyone that Mississippi still hadn't officially ratified the amendment when a professor made the discovery last year.
I never made the claim everybody knew that it wasn't filed (I didn't make claim like that at all). However it was obviously known in 1995 that they had yet to ratify it. They were one of the 20% of states that voted to reject the amendment when it was written. They finally got around to ratifying it in 1995. 130 years later. at some point it may have become an oversight but you can bet that for many many years if not decades it was very much an intentional oversight. Racism is far too rampant in many of the southern states for it to be mere coincidence and oversight.
edit: going back I can see how my comment may have looked like I was specifically referring to the Mississippi thing. I was referring to that everyone in those areas knew about segregated proms and quite simply never did a damn thing about it. Which tells you where society in that area places thing like equality. But damn I bet they'd have a lot of things to say and would move heaven and earth in protest if you tried to make them register their guns.
anyways back on topic....well done Collins and well done all those athletes who have been vocal in their support.
Good for him, hopefully another step in the right direction. I'm looking forward to the day when nobody cares about someone's sexual preference or the color of their skin.
It's part of the overall story. Check out the comments section of Huff Post article.
No, it really isn't. Look BadgerBob, it's very obvious that you aren't comfortable with homosexuality, and that it bothers you when any of these stories get attention. Just look back at the Tim Thomas thread.
You told a story about some guy touching your friend as if that should be held against all gay people. That's classic homophobia.
Much later, Matt walked home. Turns out that Tony drove them to a secluded area. He put his hand on Matt's lap. Matt said that he wasn't like that, but Tony kept at it. Matt got out of the car. Tony drove back to the park, but sped off after he saw Matt telling some others what had happened. Believe me, a serious beatdown would've ABSOLUTELY been deserved. Of course, you won't read these types of stories in the paper or see a movie with that type of scene. Something tells me that these incidents are not isolated or uncommon either. Anybody could've accepted that this guy was gay, but he pretended otherwise and couldn't accept "no" as answer.
So, forgive me for indifferent to their supposed "rights." Honestly, if this scumbag had found himself a permanent butt buddy, and had their little ceremony it makes no difference to me. I'm just sick of constantly being bombarded with the issues, their victim mentality and their never-ending list of grievances. For those of you in this thread, who are gay. That's fine. Go ahead and be gay. Just don't expect sympathy because your dad didn't accept it or you got made fun of in school.
Like seriously, read that again. A guy touched another guy at some point, so that calls for "indifference" to the "supposed" rights of an entire segment of our population? Your comments and views of homosexuality are quite frankly tough to stomach, and I can only hope that one day you can change your opinion and realize that gay people are equal to straight people and deserve al the same rights we do.
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We could go on about other examples, but the media and Hollywood strategy has always been to portray gays as innocent victims and anybody who is not completely adoring of them as a "intolerant" or worse.
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The point of sharing the story was to show that they're not all wonderful, honest, upstanding citizens. Universally, any stories about gays always portray them sympathetically. If you're going to demand "equality," then let's lay everything out on the line.
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Since you brought it up - want to know my actual position? Indifference. The country has far more pressing issues. This one seems to be real hot button with you and your newbie buds here. So what if the founder of Chic-Fil-A mailed out a check? So what if Tim Thomas tweeted that it was his right to so? Seems to me that's the democratic process. If this is indeed about "rights," then it should be debated vigorously in the public forum. The expectation that there should be no opposition sounds more totalitarian.
It's pretty clear cut homophobia, and that's okay, it's something we all need to work towards. When I was in high school I was homophobic, now ten years later I can't stand when people see memebers of the LGBT community as anything but equal members of society.
You say that they don't need to bring attention to their cause, yet you're blind to the fact that it's people like you who are the reason that they have to bring attention to their cause.
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