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dino7c · 03-31-2013, 08:51 PM

Anyone who would be disappointed with Seth should give their heads a shake...he is going #1 and if we have it we should take him. Flames need every position

Francis's Hairpiece · 03-31-2013, 08:56 PM

BPA. If that's Jones, then you grab him and run. If he's gone go from there.

Savvy27 · 03-31-2013, 09:04 PM

MacKinnon, Barkov, Drouin, Jones, Monahan, Lindholm

Teroy · 03-31-2013, 09:06 PM

MacKinnon, Barkov

Roof-Daddy · 03-31-2013, 09:21 PM

Maybe with some hard work, some wheeling and dealing, and a lot of luck, the Flames end up walking away from the 2013 draft with Seth Jones, AND one of MacKinnon, Barkov, Drouin, Lindholm or Monohan.

Probably not, but it sure would kick start a rebuild.

Rapidfire999 · 03-31-2013, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Maybe with some hard work, some wheeling and dealing, and a lot of luck, the Flames end up walking away from the 2013 draft with Seth Jones, AND one of MacKinnon, Barkov, Drouin, Lindholm or Monohan.

Probably not, but it sure would kick start a rebuild.

I wish...

Hoping for a couple more first rounders

bubbsy · 03-31-2013, 09:26 PM

Didn't the isles or some other team try to trade all their picks in the draft in effort to move up in the first round?

What would people think if the flames traded all their picks (other than their own lottery pick) to get a top 10 pick? Would a team ever accept such an offer?

Oling_Roachinen · 03-31-2013, 09:33 PM

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I've been doing a lot of reading up and watching videos on Nichushkin and here's my take:
Very big, skilled winger with game breaking ability and great hands. Very, very high ceiling. Ranked 2nd overall by ISS, which is a great indication of his skill. Would be glad to draft him with our pick (as long as he's willing to come over asap and does really want to play in the NHL)

Which isn't exactly a sure thing. He's got a couple years left on his KHL deal and while it's not impossible to get out of if he really wanted to come to the NHL it is another obstacle that the other top players don't have.

Touted as a "top 5 talent" in this draft and now with the ISS ranking him at 2nd overall I would love for Feaster to try and grab him if he does drop, but not with the Flames own pick. If the Russian Factor does drop him and he's available past that 10th pick Feaster should be doing whatever he can to package that Penguins pick up, or moving some of the veterans, don't really care - longshot, sure but I think worth it. However, with the Flames own pick assuming it's in the top 8 or so I feel there's some great candidates that don't come with that risk. Ff the Flames want this rebuild to turn over quickly they can't risk "wasting" this pick.

Oling_Roachinen · 03-31-2013, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbsy

Didn't the isles or some other team try to trade all their picks in the draft in effort to move up in the first round?

What would people think if the flames traded all their picks (other than their own lottery pick) to get a top 10 pick? Would a team ever accept such an offer?

No, not as it stands now and without their own second. A ~30th pick and ~65th pick aren't worth anywhere close to a top 10.

FlamesAllTheWay · 03-31-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbsy

Didn't the isles or some other team try to trade all their picks in the draft in effort to move up in the first round?

What would people think if the flames traded all their picks (other than their own lottery pick) to get a top 10 pick? Would a team ever accept such an offer?

Now would be a good time for one of those draft charts on the percentage of each pick actually producing a capable NHL player (beyond playing a few games). I think it's pretty low after the first round.

For this years draft I'd be all for it though. From the sounds of it the first half of the first round is pretty deep.. so the chance of at best landing two superstars or hopefully at worst landing one impact/superstar player is worth it to me.

Draft is never a sure thing but two top 10 picks this year would at least dramatically increase our odds of getting some quality, impact players IMO.

CalgaryFan1988 · 03-31-2013, 09:59 PM

I believe in drafting forwards and acquiring top defenders through FA due to their age of maturity. If anything the last 5 or more years has thought me, is that top forwards (especially centres) never become available as free agents or rarely.

Mackinnon or Barkov for me please.

3 Justin 3 · 03-31-2013, 10:09 PM

I get the BPA argument, but with the top 3 (even 4) in this draft, all the players are so good and so close to one another that if the Flames took anyone over the other I wouldn't be disappointed.

Jing · 03-31-2013, 10:30 PM

I would be happy with any of Jones/Mackinnon/Drouin/Barkov/Lindhom if we have a top 5 pick.

Darnell Nurse or Monahan if we have a pick 6-10.

Sylvanfan · 03-31-2013, 10:32 PM

I don't know if you can lose with any of MacKinnon, Drouin, or Jones. Drouin is on a serious upswing, and might be one of the best wingers to come along since Patrick Kane.

Has anyone seen much of Curtis Lazar? Not as a top 10 guy, but if you can wrangle Detroits first for Bouwmeester. Reminds me a bit of Iginla in that he's a young player on a deep veteran team. So he may not put up eye popping numbers because he gets held back a bit. Not comparing them as players, more the situation, where Lazar as a 16 year old did have a good playoffs. He is a true center, and from what I hear a good two way player for a guy his age.

Miniac · 03-31-2013, 10:33 PM

Jones/Mackinnon/Drouin/Barkov/Lindhom - Can't go wrong with any of these kids.

I would prefer a #1C

Enoch Root · 03-31-2013, 10:35 PM

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The dude at one point in time was being compared to Crosby so i would say yes.

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I'm not sure how much that matters now. Phil Kessel was at one time considered America's answer to Sidney Crosby, but by the time the draft came up, he sure wasn't.

I don't think anyone is comparing MacKinnon to Crosby now, or has in the past year or 2.

He isn't being compared to Crosby anymore, no.

However, I think a really good comparison is Parise. Lightning fast, extremely tenacious, 1st line offensive talent, and the hardest working guy on the team.

Table 5 · 03-31-2013, 10:36 PM

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I Reminds me a bit of Iginla in that he's a young player on a deep veteran team.

Speaking of Iginla, it would be pretty neat to read his junior scouting analysis to see what scouts thought of him back then. Anyone out there have a '95 prospect issue or something by any chance?

Enoch Root · 03-31-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I don't think it really matters personally. Our main reason for getting a #1 centre is gone now.

I think this team just lacks a young forward superstar in general.

I'm sorry, what?

Just because Iginla is gone we should stop looking for that #1 C? That is just crazy talk. We need a #1 C, now and always. Period.

Hell, I'd love 3 of them.

Sylvanfan · 03-31-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Table 5

Speaking of Iginla, it would be pretty neat to read his junior scouting analysis to see what scouts thought of him back then. Anyone out there have a '95 prospect issue or something by any chance?

I had season tickets to the Blazers that year, and watched him play about 45 home games that year. He was strong on the boards, quick skater with a good shot. Was also one of the bet fighters in the league in his age group. I thought he had more potential than Shane Doan. Difference was that Doan was a year older and more mature physically. Doan played on the Blazers second line and got a lot more PP time. Iginla was on the third line, and not a lot of PP time. I remember the hockeynews had Iginla and Berard as the two 5 star prospects of that draft.

I remember another guy Steve Kelly who was all speed....the Oilers took him 6th overall ahead of Doan who's name was being chanted by the crowd. Doan was the Memorial Cup MVP, but comparing 17 year old Doan to Iginla...Iginla was a much better scorer. Doan though was physically ready for the NHL after his draft year.

Dagger · 03-31-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I had season tickets to the Blazers that year, and watched him play about 45 home games that year. He was strong on the boards, quick skater with a good shot. Was also one of the bet fighters in the league in his age group. I thought he had more potential than Shane Doan. Difference was that Doan was a year older and more mature physically. Doan played on the Blazers second line and got a lot more PP time. Iginla was on the third line, and not a lot of PP time. I remember the hockeynews had Iginla and Berard as the two 5 star prospects of that draft.

Was he considered to be a high risk/high reward kind of guys? Is that how he made it to 11, when the other 5 star prospect went first?