04-04-2013, 04:20 AM
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#121
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by bluck
Well I guess silly is as silly does. I was actually making reference to the fact that the media does view these forums and they would take notice of all the fire Feaster threads and perhaps they would start talking about potential replacements.
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Even if they did so, I'm not sure that would make much impact on ownership's decisions regarding management. Further to the point, I also believe that conducting one's business through and on the basis of media speculation and ratings boosters is generally a very bad idea.
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Originally Posted by bluck
My "petition" was obviously a joke, sorry if you didn't see that as my main objective was to bump this thread...
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There was nothing obvious about this. I also thought you were seriously suggesting that fans start a petition.
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04-04-2013, 04:39 AM
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#122
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Mathgod
If Feaster is let go, I wouldn't mind seeing Burke take over the reigns. When he arrived in Toronto that team was a joke and their cupboard was bare. Now the team he build sits 5th in the east (realistically 4th).
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I am slightly more open to pursuing B. Burke today than I was a year ago, now following the success that the Toronto Maple Leafs appear to be enjoying. But I'm still not convinced he is a great GM. In my opinion, the current Leafs team is really the only good evidence for his managerial skills, since he was the supplementary figure in constructing both Anaheim's and Vancouver's cup winning/competing teams.
Burke would actually have more to work with in Calgary than he did upon his arrival in Toronto.
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04-04-2013, 05:11 AM
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#123
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: England
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Put me in the NO to Burke camp, I want someone of the new school rather than an old dinosaur.
I like the move that CLB made and think we should also be looking further afield if the Flames decide to remove Feaster.
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04-04-2013, 06:32 AM
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#124
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I am slightly more open to pursuing B. Burke today than I was a year ago, now following the success that the Toronto Maple Leafs appear to be enjoying. But I'm still not convinced he is a great GM. In my opinion, the current Leafs team is really the only good evidence for his managerial skills, since he was the supplementary figure in constructing both Anaheim's and Vancouver's cup winning/competing teams.
Burke would actually have more to work with in Calgary than he did upon his arrival in Toronto.
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Wasn't Burke that got Van, both the bobbleheaded pony twins?
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04-04-2013, 06:43 AM
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#125
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#1 Goaltender
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Heck yes to Brian Burke please.
He did one bad thing in his time in Toronto pretty much, and has surely learned from it. The guy wouldn't be trading any first round picks, plus it's not like Feaster hasn't tried to trade our first. I would love to have the team Toronto has right now
Burke wins his trades and ices a team that fans can be proud of. 8-2 to losses Lowe's Oilers would not happen with him at the helm, and if they did there would be hell to pay.
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04-04-2013, 06:49 AM
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#126
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I think I would like Burke as well, for the simple reason that he is more like a D. Sutter. He is no one's yes-man and can be cold and cruel when he needs to be. It's kind of what this team needs in management.
I don't dislike Feaster as much as some people (although the ROR offersheet was bad - even before the fiasco it turned into), but I just don't think he's tough enough to stand up to ownership and tell then what's up. Burke can... but whether or not that is what they want is another thing.
I also worry about Feaster's clout and if it will affect his dealings with other GMs.
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Last edited by FlamesAddiction; 04-04-2013 at 06:53 AM.
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04-04-2013, 06:51 AM
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#127
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#1 Goaltender
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and to those that bring up Burke's inability with the media, please note the big difference between Toronto media and Calgary media. Calgary media is a walk in the park, most guys take it easy on the Flames and if someone does criticize them, they tip-toe around the subject.
Burke gives way better interviews than Darryl, and the media still didn't rip Darryl even though they clearly didn't like him (certain guys at least)
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04-04-2013, 07:14 AM
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#128
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Lifetime Suspension
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You can hate Burke for being a blow hard or think he is a bad GM; however, the hiring of Burke would signal one very important thing: Murray Edwards and Ken King would no longer be meddling with hockey operations.
Burke wouldn't take a job if he wasn't guaranteed 100% autonomy. And for this reason alone I would love to see Burke hired.
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04-04-2013, 07:18 AM
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#129
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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We need to sign Burke just on his Oiler hate alone. He is one of us!!
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04-04-2013, 07:20 AM
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#130
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Franchise Player
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Jim Nill has a 6 week window each summer when he can pursue GM positions around the league.
He's the man to do this rebuild. Bring him back to the city of Calgary
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04-04-2013, 07:27 AM
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#131
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Burke has a tough team mentality like Sutter, Feaster has made us small and over matched by every team in the league its time for a new direction. Even if a new G.M was hired it be Buttons draft all the way.
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04-04-2013, 08:10 AM
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#132
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CP Pontiff
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: A pasture out by Millarville
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The Flames would definitely become a bigger and tougher team with Burke running it and the fans would love that in the darker moments.
Generally, Burke would inspire more confidence among fandom than Feaster does . . . . . which should cause Feaster to be sweating right now.
It's definitely a possibility between now and the draft. Don't kid yourselves.
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04-04-2013, 08:11 AM
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#133
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Burke is a no-brainer. Has successfully rebuilt two organizations and won a cup with the other.
He would also reverse the soft circus Feaster has been pushing with his love for toughness - my guess is that he wouldn't agree with Feaster's assessment that acquiring McGrattan solved the team's lack of toughness.
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04-04-2013, 08:16 AM
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#134
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by Parallex
2nd worst team in the League, 9th worst Team in the League, 5th worst team in the league... yeah, he sure did a good job.
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I'd be surprised if the Flames have a better trajectory than that over the next three years no matter who the GM is.
Look at where that joke of organization was when he came in and where it is now.
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04-04-2013, 08:21 AM
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#135
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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IF Feaster is going to get fired, don't you guys think it would have happened by now? Why let a lame duck trade your franchise player?
As for Burke.....I think he is a well intentioned man. He has been a successful GM everywhere he has gone. He is just a bit to much for me though.
However if it came down to Feaster vs Burke. I would go with Burke all the way.
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04-04-2013, 08:24 AM
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#136
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Lifetime Suspension
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I truly believe that Burke is the answer.
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04-04-2013, 08:27 AM
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#137
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
IF Feaster is going to get fired, don't you guys think it would have happened by now? Why let a lame duck trade your franchise player?
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It would be a heavy task to ask a new GM to trade Iginla, Kipper, and Bouw in his first moves. Now those players are gone, the new GM will be able to move forward and build his team while those moves are all on Feaster and not affecting the team moving forward.
That is IF Feaster is going to get fired, which he may not
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04-04-2013, 08:27 AM
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#138
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Dion
Weisbrod will get the GM position if Feaster is let go.
What I don't want is a GM who is always feuding with ownership and the media. It's a distraction a rebuilding team doesn't need.
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feaster credited Weisbrod with creating the "Post Apex" term. He can go when Feaster et al go.
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04-04-2013, 08:27 AM
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#139
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Franchise Player
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I truly believe Burke wouldn't be an answer, and listening to him would make me sick to my stomach.
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04-04-2013, 08:29 AM
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#140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
IF Feaster is going to get fired, don't you guys think it would have happened by now? Why let a lame duck trade your franchise player?
As for Burke.....I think he is a well intentioned man. He has been a successful GM everywhere he has gone. He is just a bit to much for me though.
However if it came down to Feaster vs Burke. I would go with Burke all the way.
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I could think of a lot of reasons why Feaster would not be let go even if it was in the plans.
The next GM could still be working for another team and Feaster is still the only one with irons in the fire (contract negotiations, trades, draft info) until the next GM is ready.
The next GM may have set certain terms before moving in, like wanting a clean slate. It would be extremely difficult for a new GM to come in and deal Iginla as his first duty. Talk about the hot seat.
The incoming GM might also not have the best read on player value since he has not been with the team all year.
Switiching GMs is sometimes a bit of a transition. It's not always best to go cold turkey.
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