Connecticut School Shooting

[HELPNEEDED]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

If there were no guns, the guy would have choked 27 people to death anyways.

Just shutup.

[Ashasx]

Imagine the counseling the survivors are going to need. Unreal.

[Nyah]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

This. Same goes for road rage. I honestly want to cry

I've shed a couple tears over this. It's horrific.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by vektor

In my opinion it's mostly a mental health problem. There is too much stress, too much consumerism, too much unhealthy food and too many pharmaceutical drugs driving the Americans crazy. They are going to stop the symptom (gun control) and the problem will only fester to worse things, making lethal devices is not hard, you could make a large explosive with $50 worth of material that would do just the same amount of damage as this school shooting. It's horrific what's happening and people need to look at the root cause, their society has fundamental issues with the majority of lifestyle patterns.

Is Canada all that different?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

tongue was in cheek.......

Which is ridiculous given the subject

[gargamel]

Now they're reporting that the shooter's mother was found killed in her Newtown home.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

You're seriously comparing police interviewing the kids as witnesses to figure out what happened and some sleazy reporter shoving a mic in front of some poor kid who just saw their classmates get murderes in cold blood?

It's damn insensitive. My wife almost died in a medical situation and within hours someone wanted a quote from her. We were outraged, but that pales compared to this

[Senator Clay Davis]

Ahh the usual chicken#### White House. If not now, then when exactly?

...White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said "today is not the day," to engage in a policy debate over gun control. [...]

"I think that day will come, but today's not that day, especially as we are awaiting more information about the situation," Carney told reporters in a somber press briefing at the White House.

Carney ducked the question when asked when would be a good time to engage in a substantive debate on gun control, repeating that today isn't the time. Obama has drawn criticism for never making gun control an administration priority.

Asked about reinstating the Assault Weapons Ban, which Obama has supported but never invested political capital in, Carney said it "does remain a commitment" of the president's.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/1...28Daily+Kos%29#

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by vektor

In my opinion it's mostly a mental health problem. There is too much stress, too much consumerism, too much unhealthy food and too many pharmaceutical drugs driving the Americans crazy. They are going to stop the symptom (gun control) and the problem will only fester to worse things, making lethal devices is not hard, you could make a large explosive with $50 worth of material that would do just the same amount of damage as this school shooting. It's horrific what's happening and people need to look at the root cause, their society has fundamental issues with the majority of lifestyle patterns.

That is ridiculous. Those same factors exist elsewhere and have far less gun violence.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Hopefully, but I'm skeptical. Reading other forums I've already seen Americans talk about how more guns might have prevented this and how violent video games are the real problem. Pretty much everything's to blame but their ridiculous guns laws and culture.

If the mass murder of a bunch of children isn't enough for the majority of the American population to want massive change then I will be seriously disheartened to my core. That doesn't sound like the word, but I can't think of what the right word is right now.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by valo403

Which is ridiculous given the subject

I don't disagree.

While tastless, it appears to not be a serious comment.

[Minnie]

The gun culture in the US is just one reason we turned down a job offer in the US, a number of years ago. No thanks.

[vektor]

Originally Posted by valo403

Is Canada all that different?

yeah, we are collectively more aware of eachothers' well being. While Canadians can be extremely mean the arrogance and consumerism in the U.S. is more rampant, they have more people on pharmaceuticals and their food is more processed. You will see acts of kindness way more often in Canada than in the U.S. Our social policies and higher tax rates create a society where we are forced to help the less fortunate as where in the U.S. it's dog eat dog.

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

That is ridiculous. Those same factors exist elsewhere and have far less gun violence.

the U.S. has 6 of the top 12 pharmaceutical companies in the world and are more drugged up than anywhere else

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ical_companies

to say that the situation is the same everywhere else in the world is naive

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Ahh the usual chicken#### White House. If not now, then when exactly?


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/1...28Daily+Kos%29#

I'd agree that this very moment isn't the time to have that debate, at least not in terms of the President having it. Let's get through the actual event first. Tonight though, or when the dust settles, is a different story.

[Robo]

This is absolutley sickening. My thoughts are with the families and those that lost their lives

[Nyah]

CNN - the number of fatalities is rising closer to 30.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by vektor

yeah, we are collectively more aware of eachothers' well being. While Canadians can be extremely mean the arrogance and consumerism in the U.S. is more rampant, they have more people on pharmaceuticals and their food is more processed. You will see acts of kindness way more often in Canada than in the U.S. Our social policies and higher tax rates create a society where we are forced to help the less fortunate as where in the U.S. it's dog eat dog.

As someone who has split their adult life between the 2 countries that is entirely BS.

Collectively more aware of each others well being? Give me a break. You'll see more acts o kindness? Absolute myopic garbage.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Burninator

If the mass murder of a bunch of children isn't enough for the majority of the American population to want massive change then I will be seriously disheartened to my core. That doesn't sound like the word, but I can't think of what the right word is right now.

Ideological stances not based on logic don't change for logical reasons

[OILFAN #81]

Ryan Lanza apparently is the shooter.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by valo403

Is Canada all that different?

I tend to think not. But it sure is different when it comes to people shooting a large amount of random people in an organized and deliberate manner.