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Old 08-17-2012, 09:10 PM   #121
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That two-lane bottle neck and the lights north of it are a killer. I know the city had some impute sessions in the fall (?). It would be great to see the two projects go hand in hand.
Waiting for that interchange will probably mean waiting 50 years for the arena and stadium.
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:58 PM   #122
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Waiting for that interchange will probably mean waiting 50 years for the arena and stadium.
My hope is that they can get it down to a clean 45.
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Apparently the Saddledome suffered hail damage last week. Is this the first anyone has heard this? Or fata?
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:50 AM   #124
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Apparently the Saddledome suffered hail damage last week. Is this the first anyone has heard this? Or fata?
I wouldn't be surprised. I heard the Ramsey area just got hammered.
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:00 AM   #125
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I wouldn't be surprised. I heard the Ramsey area just got hammered.
Is that you FlyingDonutz?
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Old 08-18-2012, 11:19 AM   #126
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Apparently the Saddledome suffered hail damage last week. Is this the first anyone has heard this? Or fata?
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/ca...907/story.html
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:42 PM   #127
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Good thing they'll have at least 4.5 months to fix it before the next NHL game.

Wait...
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Old 08-19-2012, 11:22 AM   #128
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So if the Flames are waiting for the Oilers to get their situation figured out before they do anything, can anyone tell me how far along the Oilers are? If someone were to give an educated guess, what does the timeline look like before we know where our new arena is going to be?
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:05 AM   #129
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Apparently the Saddledome suffered hail damage last week. Is this the first anyone has heard this? Or fata?
at least it's not Metrodome bad after 1 hailstorm in Minny

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Old 08-21-2012, 07:39 AM   #130
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at least it's not Metrodome bad after 1 hailstorm in Minny

You know, they do have slightly different roofing structures
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:46 AM   #131
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You know, they do have slightly different roofing structures
you don't say....... that's unpossible
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:57 AM   #132
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at least it's not Metrodome bad after 1 hailstorm in Minny

Or BC Place bad, how did that facility get half a billion anyways? If Vancouver can put down that kind of money for a new roof.. we could put up on hell of an arena just under their entire roof budget
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:13 AM   #133
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Or BC Place bad, how did that facility get half a billion anyways? If Vancouver can put down that kind of money for a new roof.. we could put up on hell of an arena just under their entire roof budget
BC Place was a lot more than just a new roof - the entire stadium was rebuilt. That being said, I believe that 250 million was for the new roof and 250 for everything else. It really is a nice building, I must admit, but that's still a heck of a lot of money.
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:16 PM   #134
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Default Saddledome roof repairs photo

Took this picture from Scotsman's Hill yesterday.
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Out of curiosity, I took the footprints of a couple of building (the Jobing.com Arena is the smaller one, and the UConn Football stadium in Hartford is the larger one) and put them over top some of the spaces that may be available.

I picked two buildings that were built in the last decade that are likely close to the same size as what the new buildings in Calgary will be.

Ken King has said many times that the new arena will be in the downtown area. There aren't that many possible locations that would be available for re-development that are large enough, especially if they want to build both an arena and stadium in the same general area.


1. East Victoria Park


This is the area north of Stampede Park, from 4th St to 6th St and from 12th Ave to the tracks. I believe this has been the Flames' preferred location for a new arena for a number of years. The area north of 11th Ave is currently just a big open lot, and would be big enough for just an arena and some bars and restaurants. The blocks between 11th and 12th have some houses and businesses on them, but they would likely be available for re-development. There was a planned condo tower for the corner of 4th St and 12th Ave, but it was cancelled a few years ago.

This location would need some significant transportation infrastructure work to be able to move people in and out of the area efficiently. It would likely help spur development in the East Village because City Hall would be the closest C-Train station to the complex (slightly closer than Victoria Park), so there would be large numbers of people walking through the East Village before and after every event.



2. Fire Park


This is the old Firestone tire plant on the corner of Memorial and Barlow, north of the Max Bell. This is a massive piece of property that has remained underdeveloped for decades. When they were planning the Olympic venues, this was considered as a possible location for the new arena and a new stadium for the Opening and Closing Ceremonies.

There would probably need to be some road work done to the area to help move people into and out of the site, but it likely would be minimal. It's very close to the Deerfoot and there's already a C-Train station there.

The property is so large that there's room for both the stadium and arena, with plenty to spare for parking and a large entertainment/dining area.



3. West Village -- Greyhound Depot and GSL Chev-City


This is the area directly west of 14th St and bound by the two halves of Bow Trail. The city owns most, if not all, of this land already and has long-term plans to redevelop it as the West Village.

It would be very difficult to put a football stadium into this space with a North-South field orientation. The stadium really only fits if the field were run East-West. The North-South orientation is preferred because it doesn't force one team to play into the sun during the game. Ivor Wynn Stadium in Hamilton is currently the only E-W oriented stadium in the CFL (McMahon is angled slightly to the NW and Taylor Field is angled even more to the NW), but even it is rumored to be getting re-aligned during its reconstruction next year. The stadium in Ottawa also has an E-W orientation, which won't be changed when it re-opens in the future.


3. West Village -- Greyhound, GSL, Renfrew Chrysler


This is the same West Village area, but expanded to include the space currently occupied by Renfrew Chrysler. This would allow for the football stadium to go on the Renfrew space with a field orientation similar to McMahon's.

This would be a drastic change to the City's West Village plans (http://www.calgary.ca/PDA/LUPP/Docum...illage-arp.pdf), but might make more sense in the long-term. The land in this area is badly contaminated because there was a wood treatment plant there for decades, then the car dealerships moved in. Cleaning it up to the point where it's safe for people to live might be impossible, and even if it isn't, it will be extremely expensive.

From a transportation point of view, it's well located. The new Sunalta C-Train station is right there, and Crowchild and 14th St are both nearby.
That west village location seems bar far the most likely. Great old post...
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Old 07-21-2014, 01:44 PM   #137
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Do you think it would bi a viable option to be a reasonable distance from the LRT line and then build a tram/monorail system to connect to LRT? Simlar to some airports?
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Do you think it would bi a viable option to be a reasonable distance from the LRT line and then build a tram/monorail system to connect to LRT? Simlar to some airports?
I remember original discussion were that the LRT would be built right into the stadium. Not sure if that's still part of the plan, but the initial thought of the Big Four building location certainly played into it. As would the bus depot locations.

Either way, pretty telling that this thread is 2 years old. This project better be massive and awesome.
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Old 07-21-2014, 02:36 PM   #140
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Do you think it would bi a viable option to be a reasonable distance from the LRT line and then build a tram/monorail system to connect to LRT? Simlar to some airports?
If they want to create an Arena District, they'll probably put it a reasonable distance away and fill the gap with bars and restaurants.
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