[News] With the 21st overall pick Flames select C Mark Jankowski

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Feaster says CHL is still an option. Saginaw Spirit hold his rights.

Really hope they convince him to go CHL route.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Lt.Spears

Just like you, but the collective CP braintrust will now claim him the steal of the draft and an excellent choice.

I've been hoping the Flames would take him for months

[flamesaresmokin]

Originally Posted by Swayze11

NHL Comparsion: Jason Spezza.

Sign me up!

The big difference was spezza was tearing up major junior when he was drafted not a third rate high school league.

[sureLoss]

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by JayP

I really hate statements like these.

When your assistant GM is making the call on who they're drafting after one viewing it's not a good thing. Pretty much a slap in the face to all the scouts who watch hundreds of games all year. You can't accurately scout a guy in that short a time period. I'm sure the Flames did their due diligence afterwards, but when the assistant GM is making statements like that it's going to be pretty tough to override that first impression.

If you listened to the interview, Weisbrod was sent to check him out because Button and the other scouts were already excited about him.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin

The big difference was spezza was tearing up major junior when he was drafted not a third rate high school league.

Jankowski was two days away from being eligible for for next years draft, that's how old he is.

[saskflames69]

Originally Posted by JayP

LMAO. Weisbrod wasn't even the GM of the Magic yet when Bergeron was drafted.

The amount of credit that guy gets for no results (yet hopefully) is ridiculous.

Wow, Weisbrod manages a basketball team too? Is there anything this guy can't do?

[Hockey_Ninja]

The OHL is a softer league than the NCAA. He could light it up their me thinks but the NCAA could be good for him to play against tougher competition.

[flames_1987]

Originally Posted by Lt.Spears

Just like you, but the collective CP braintrust will now claim him the steal of the draft and an excellent choice.

No, people will just say it could be a great pick or it could not be. The fact is, nobody on here knows hardly anything about this kid or the rest of the draft class. The people taking the radical opinions on this move are the ones denouncing it.

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by Lt.Spears

Just like you, but the collective CP braintrust will now claim him the steal of the draft and an excellent choice.

What a bunch of sheep huh? Especially when they could be like you and moan and complain about things they know nothing about like a broken record.

You are so edgy.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by flames_1987

This is classic. I'm pretty sure nobody is complaining about our 2011 Draft class right now, and lord knows there was a lot back then. Stop trying to pretend you're an expert on this at all and you know anything about the player drafted.

not <m>any canadian high schoolers have been drafted, let alone make it to the NHL.

btw, Baertschi was very much like Tuevo. Highly ranked, but slipped a bit. People were very happy with that pick last year.

[SeoulFire]

Originally Posted by flames_1987

The Flames are in a position where if you're not picking top 5, I say you go for the high ceiling, high risk/ high reward guy. People on here complained about the Flames needing top end talent, it seems pretty unanimous among the people who actually watch these young players for a living, that this kid has an incredibly high ceiling.

Perhaps this kid is a top five pick - if he were a few days younger. Next year will be really interesting to see how he does. It could well be that we got a top 5 (ie 2013 draft) at 21.

I love the risk/reward aspect.

[Freeway]

You don't send John Weisbrod anywhere in a snow storm unless you've already checked him out yourselves.

[bluck]

From Roto
The Calgary Flames arguably made the first truly "off the board" selection by grabbing Mark Jankowski with the 21st pick.
Jankowski has some hockey roots, but it didn't help him draw a ton of attention - at least from a first-round perspective. He's six-foot-two but just 170 lbs. so he'll probably take quite a while to make it to the NHL level. One thing he does have is scoring instincts, however, particularly when it comes to passing. Time will tell if Flames GM Jay Feaster ends up looking shrewd or silly by making this pick. Jun. 22 - 9:55 pm et

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by JayP

I really hate statements like these.

When your assistant GM is making the call on who they're drafting after one viewing it's not a good thing. Pretty much a slap in the face to all the scouts who watch hundreds of games all year. You can't accurately scout a guy in that short a time period. I'm sure the Flames did their due diligence afterwards, but when the assistant GM is making statements like that it's going to be pretty tough to override that first impression.

I don't think that's how it went down at all. Much more likely Button and his scouts did their due diligence on Jankowski and then called out the AGM to take a peak. Either way I like the pick, we need high risk/high reward types IMO.

The really interesting thing I'd like to know more about (and really wish Miller had asked about when he had the chance) is the potential trading of the 1st round pick. The way Feaster phrased his conversation with Weisbrod it sounded like trading the pick was basically in the bag until Weisbrod viewed Jankowski. Would love to know who and/or what Feaster had planned to trade it for.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin

That's what's mind boggling about using a first round pick on the kid......

I guess so long as he has that winning attitude nothing else matters.

More teams are drafting from other leagues. I like it as it shows they are being very complete in their scouting

[Dorkmaster]

I love this pick. When we traded out of 14, I was pretty disappointed, but this is a very interesting pick. High upside, center, biggest asset is hockey sense and young. I wouldn't be too worried about his level of competition, he's got time to develop.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by Diemenz

People hear Feaster says let's win now.
People complain.
People want a rebuild.
Calgary drafts a player who will come in right when the older players contracts expire and the rebuild can start.
People complain.
All of a sudden people want to win now.

I'm beginning to think some people just like to complain no matter what happens.

You explained exactly why people are complaining.

We say we're going for it now and then draft a major project that's not going to be an impact NHLer for likely 5-6 years if he pans. The key being impact player - he could be in the show in 3-4, but not contributing in a big way until 5-6. We need these draft picks to pan out while Iggy/Kipper are still here if we plan on riding them out - otherwise we aren't competing for anything.

There were quality players that slipped to 14 that were a lot more NHL ready and fit in a lot more with the direction this team is going. This would be a great pick if we were rebuilding. But, unfortunately, we aren't heading in that direction.

[flamesaresmokin]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Jankowski was two days away from being eligible for for next years draft, that's how old he is.

And this somehow validates taking an enormous risk on a first round pick? We're hardly in a position to be passing up high probability players in the first round at this point.

If he is actually so good that he'll be "the player of the draft" in a few years why did so many teams pass him up as well and why was he so far off the board?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin

And this somehow validates taking an enormous risk on a first round pick? We're hardly in a position to be passing up high probability players in the first round at this point.

If he is actually so good that he'll be "the player of the draft" in a few years why did so many teams pass him up as well and

So you wanted to go the safer route?

Okay, interesting. For some reason if we took a crash and bang winger with our pick a guy like you would have exploded.

why was he so far off the board?

There is no such thing as "the board".