Do Vancouver Men Suck?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Good post but I think this part is quite sad. I can honestly say that my wife is my best friend. Obviously that doesn't mean that I want to spend every waking moment with her, but there are plenty of times where I prefer her company to the company of my mostly idiotic friends. I can't be the only man who feels like this, can I?

I prefer my girlfriend when I'm up for a quiet night in. But going out and being social? Bros before hos.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Good post but I think this part is quite sad. I can honestly say that my wife is my best friend. Obviously that doesn't mean that I want to spend every waking moment with her, but there are plenty of times where I prefer her company to the company of my mostly idiotic friends. I can't be the only man who feels like this, can I?

Maybe it's time for new friends?

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Good post but I think this part is quite sad. I can honestly say that my wife is my best friend. Obviously that doesn't mean that I want to spend every waking moment with her, but there are plenty of times where I prefer her company to the company of my mostly idiotic friends. I can't be the only man who feels like this, can I?

I'd quite frankly be interested to know what age most of the "single forever" guys are.

Right now I'm 31 but look about 25. So even though I'm in a relationship, I get attention from women when I'm at a bar etc...(attention that I can't act upon, but maybe that's why they're giving it to me) However, 31 seems to be around the age when people's looks really start to fade. A lot of my friends have either gone bald or gained weight.

While yes it would be fun to stay young forever and pick up young attractive women, that isn't the case. Picking up 40+ women at bars just doesn't seem all that fun.

As for the copanionship issue, yes I would like to spend more time with my girlfriend than my buddies, just not on every friday night when there's drinking to be done

Another interesting cross-section of life is the newly single crowd. Many of these people although newly single choose to enter new relationships again. Force of habti? Or maybe being single and middle aged isn't that fun.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by blankall

However, 31 seems to be around the age when people's looks really start to fade. A lot of my friends have either gone bald or gained weight.

Speak for yourself. I plan to age like Clooney.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

The idea of wingmen is ridiculous. How useful do you think a drunk guy is really gonna be? Especially if you interrupt anything he was doing to get that going? I shouldn't have to do it just to say hi to a girl.

Don't even get me started on having to convince a buddy to jump on a grenade.

Your best-friend's girlfriend is the ultimate wingman. Trust me on this.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by blankall

I'd quite frankly be interested to know what age most of the "single forever" guys are.

Right now I'm 31 but look about 25. So even though I'm in a relationship, I get attention from women when I'm at a bar etc...(attention that I can't act upon, but maybe that's why they're giving it to me) However, 31 seems to be around the age when people's looks really start to fade. A lot of my friends have either gone bald or gained weight.

While yes it would be fun to stay young forever and pick up young attractive women, that isn't the case. Picking up 40+ women at bars just doesn't seem all that fun.

As for the copanionship issue, yes I would like to spend more time with my girlfriend than my buddies, just not on every friday night when there's drinking to be done

Another interesting cross-section of life is the newly single crowd. Many of these people although newly single choose to enter new relationships again. Force of habti? Or maybe being single and middle aged isn't that fun.

For the record, I'm 34. My wife is 28, Bajan (from Barbados), and totally hot.

I agree with what both you and Ozy_Flame posted. I do enjoy going out for a few drinks with my friends or colleagues from the office (although my wife is pretty fun at the pub too.) I definitely prefer watching the hockey game at the pub with the friends (watching with the wife is painful.)

With respect to hanging out, watching tele or a film, going out for dinner, going for a walk, I definitely prefer the company of my wife. I suppose I just enjoy doing these things more often now than when I was 22.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by blankall

I'd quite frankly be interested to know what age most of the "single forever" guys are.

Right now I'm 31 but look about 25. So even though I'm in a relationship, I get attention from women when I'm at a bar etc...(attention that I can't act upon, but maybe that's why they're giving it to me) However, 31 seems to be around the age when people's looks really start to fade. A lot of my friends have either gone bald or gained weight.

While yes it would be fun to stay young forever and pick up young attractive women, that isn't the case. Picking up 40+ women at bars just doesn't seem all that fun.

A mans' sexual market value is not centered around youth and looks, so you're play time is extended. That's not to say women don't care about looks, but it is lower on the priority list.

An older man can still easily get with younger women if you dress well and maintain decent shape.

It is the women who hit the attractiveness brick wall and run out of options as they age.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

A mans' sexual market value is not centered around youth and looks, so you're play time is extended. That's not to say women don't care about looks, but it is lower on the priority list.

An older man can still easily get with younger women if you dress well and maintain decent shape.

It is the women who hit the attractiveness brick wall and run out of options as they age.

Yes and no. Maintaining a fit and wealthy lifestyle isn't as easy for a man as you are letting on. But yes, in general, the lack of a biological clock will extend our bachelorhood.

[East Coast Flame]

I have to agree with most of the sentiment in this thread.

I am a 26 year old single guy, I have a good job that pays me too much, I am good looking, I am in shape, I dress well, I have a lot of confidence and I have zero problems approaching women...Women LOVE me, especially younger college-age Women.

I haven't been in a serious relationship since about the age of 21 basically because at the first sign of trouble, I usually break up with them and find someone else to date.

I do actually want to be in a serious relationship at some point and settle down. I feel I'm waiting for the person that makes me not want to be single anymore...and it hasn't happened yet.

I always thought I was going to get married, but as time has gone on I see it as less likely. I don't want kids, so what's the point?

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Your best-friend's girlfriend is the ultimate wingman. Trust me on this.

Truer words have never been spoken.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Good post but I think this part is quite sad. I can honestly say that my wife is my best friend. Obviously that doesn't mean that I want to spend every waking moment with her, but there are plenty of times where I prefer her company to the company of my mostly idiotic friends. I can't be the only man who feels like this, can I?

Yeah, I worded that part poorly. There are plenty of times when I feel like staying in and just hanging out with my girlfriend, but I much prefer the activities that my buddies and I do when we go out than the stuff my girlfriend wants to do. I mostly meant that a girlfriend/wife isn't going to replace a dude's friend when it comes to fraternal bonding, etc., so it's not something they bring to the table that would convince me to commit longterm.

The main point I was getting at is that many of us are no longer getting married because it provides no tangible biological benefits, and emotional or social benefits usually have limited upside and shelf-life. The theories on human relationships are that most are born out of kin selection and reciprocal altruism. When you combine that with every person's biological instincts towards gene survival/advancement, it makes sense why men are less inclined to tie themselves down in a more promiscuous society.

That being said, most of this relates to the traditional reasons for marriage and monogamy. The optimist would claim that modern marriage values put more emphasis on interpersonal relationships, but this is fairly tenuous when you examine modern marital patterns (and ironically wedding vows themselves) which are still based on reciprocal altruism at the most basic level.

I'm not making any claims on how I think things should be, and our attitudes will likely continue to evolve. I actually think society is better off not limiting masculine and feminine virtue to the atomic family model, and that our hardwired attitudes towards female promiscuity will eventually fade away or be dispersed by reason. However, I do think that the sexual revolution and women's rights movement overlooked the fact that by redefining female roles they were also redefining traditional male roles, as well as the exchange of needs.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Good post but I think this part is quite sad. I can honestly say that my wife is my best friend. Obviously that doesn't mean that I want to spend every waking moment with her, but there are plenty of times where I prefer her company to the company of my mostly idiotic friends. I can't be the only man who feels like this, can I?

She makes you pee sitting down, doesn't she...?

[CaptainCrunch]

And wear a ridiculous sweater with reindeer on it.

Plus when he's doing the housework she makes him wear a cute little apron.

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

Originally Posted by East Coast Flame

Women LOVE me, especially younger college-age Women.

I do actually want to be in a serious relationship at some point and settle down. I feel I'm waiting for the person that makes me not want to be single anymore...and it hasn't happened yet.

Not hard to figure out why that is. Women are idiots at that age.

Not that I'm telling you to stop or anything.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Good post but I think this part is quite sad. I can honestly say that my wife is my best friend.

You're right. That is sad.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by Locke

If you're out there looking for perfection then I hope you're standing outside a lot of plastic surgery clinics or scooping up women outside Fortune 500 companies after their successful interviews.

This is a brilliant plan.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Teh_Bandwagoner

This is a brilliant plan.

Agreed.

Probably best to strike before their surgical wounds heal and their self esteem is still low.

[Knalus]

Originally Posted by blankall

Agreed.

Probably best to strike before their surgical wounds heal and their self esteem is still low.

Not my idea of "perfection". There are a lot of flawed women that enter, and their main flaws aren't fixed when they leave.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

And wear a ridiculous sweater with reindeer on it.

Plus when he's doing the housework she makes him wear a cute little apron.

Dont forget the carpet on the toilet seat, why tf do women think carpet and pissing go well together?

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Makarov

For the record, I'm 34. My wife is 28, Bajan (from Barbados), and totally hot.

Thanked for the Bajan love.