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[habernac]

Originally Posted by transplant99

actually the more I look at it, and I certainly haven't looked at all the teams, it appears that the Patriots draft is one for the ages.

Remarkable that a team who was in a re-build/re-tool season went 14-2 with raw rookies accounting for 100 man games played. Belichick really is a genius.

I'm trying to look at the season as a positive, as no one thought they'd play this well. Lots of things to address in the off season obviously, but certainly a lot of positives with this crew.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I think if you look into it, many teams had a good draft this past year.

The Chiefs who no one has mentioned drafted

Eric Berry
Dexter McCluster
Javier Arenas
Tony Moeki
Jon Asamoah
Kendrick Lewis

who all played varying roles with the team. It was a deep draft with a lot of underclassman opting in last year and there were a lot of good rookies in the leauge this past season.

As far as the Chiefs were concerned it was a pretty good draft. McCluster is a disapointment. Outside of the monday night game, he didn't really do much and was injured half the time. I wonder if he is just too small to make much of an impact in this league? Anyone who watched the Chiefs vs Ravens playoff game saw that he looked like a little kid compared to Ray Lewis in the play that resulted in a forced fumble.

[browna]

Bevell goes from MIN to SEA as OC. Not a flashy name, and its tough to judge his body of work the last few years, when it was restricted by the on again off again Favre offseasons, and Favre's physical limitations. Just as long as their is no Comeback III in the cards thanks to this hiring.

With Cable O-line and assistant coach, its shaping up that Cable will be the "running" coach, while Bevell as OC will be focusing on being the "passing" coach.

He was initially going to interview in SEA as QB coach, but given the likely change of plans with McDaniels, and then the hiring of Cable, the position got moved up.

The SEA o line should be better because of Cable and his zone blocking which Carroll wanted last year...which in theory means better running game and pass protection, so will be interesting to see how much Carroll tweaks the current offensive personnel as a result of that. I still believe now is the time to tear down and put the long term pieces in..Hasslebeck has one or two serviceable years as a starting QB in the league, and the future has to be roadmapped.

So, barring Carroll firing the DC (unlikely, Carroll runs the defense unofficially anyway), staff is set, now its to be interesting to see how SEA fills its many gaps through FA and the low draft picks each round. LB, Secondary, D line, and then skilled positions on offense are all glaring holes right now.

[transplant99]

No idea where Cam Newton ends up but he has his agent. Bus Cook asked Brett Favre to meet with the kid which happened, and now newton and Cook are a tandem.

[Pagal4321]

Let the Favre to Seattle rumors begin.

[CofR]

The Bucs fired O-Line Coach Peter Mangurian yesterday. There were a lot improvements in their play this season, but they were still under performing IMO. Hopefully a new coach can get some more effective run blocking up front.

[Flickered Flame]

Ross has extended Fins GM Jeff Ireland's contract.

[moon]

Originally Posted by transplant99

No idea where Cam Newton ends up but he has his agent. Bus Cook asked Brett Favre to meet with the kid which happened, and now newton and Cook are a tandem.

Does this mean that Newton fired his agent from college or was Buzz handling those payments as well?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by moon

Does this mean that Newton fired his agent from college or was Buzz handling those payments as well?

That was his father.

[Pagal4321]

Apparently the Vikings have signed Emmanuel Arcenaux.

[Erick Estrada]

Carson Palmer reportedly to ask for trade or will retire;
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6051119

There will be more than a few teams interested but he's one of those buyer beware guys as while there have been lots of issues with the Bengals he's been part of the problem as much as anything else as he just hasn't been very good for three years now.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Carson Palmer reportedly to ask for trade or will retire;
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6051119

There will be more than a few teams interested but he's one of those buyer beware guys as while there have been lots of issues with the Bengals he's been part of the problem as much as anything else as he just hasn't been very good for three years now.

I'm guessing Pete Carroll may be interested in his former USC QB. Cincy's problem, and Lewis himself has said this, is that he doesn't know his team's identity himself.
Other then hiring troubled NFL players the last few years, Lewis hasn't done a lot to guide that team out of the medocrity its mired in. Palmer hasn't been great in the past two years after his arm injury, but still has a fair bit of gas in the tank in the right situation.

[Flabbibulin]

nm

[Erick Estrada]

Hue Jackson has ties to both Chad Johnson (who speculated this week he would love to play for him again) and Carson Palmer so the media is going to speculated that one of these guys will be a Raider. I sure hope neither do as they both are on the wrong side of their careers.

[rubecube]

Ever since his knee injury, Palmer has never really been anything more than a slightly above-average QB.

[CofR]

http://www.buccaneers.com/news/artic...7-495f7dbb0236

The Buccaneers have hired former Viking coach Pat Morris as the new O-Line Coach.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Ever since his knee injury, Palmer has never really been anything more than a slightly above-average QB.

Part of the problem is the offensive scheme they are running as well. Probably one of the least creative designs of any offense in the NFL - defenses game plan for it and come right after Palmer.

[Bobblehead]

As a Niner fan, I would take Palmer and then draft a project QB in the mid-rounds of the draft. I could see it being a nice fit for him.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

As a Niner fan, I would take Palmer and then draft a project QB in the mid-rounds of the draft. I could see it being a nice fit for him.

IIRC, Palmer's wife is from the Bay Area. Palmer is from Fresno. That makes a lot of sense. The 49ers have a decent offense (I don't buy Crabtree, Morgan and Ginn**... but Vernon Davis is a stud) and Palmer would give Harbaugh one less thing to worry about and would allow him to concentrate on grooming a successor. Plus, the 49ers could probably get Palmer for much cheaper than someone like Kolb.

And I don't even know if the 49ers need to worry about getting a successor in house this year. If the guy they target is available mid rounds, sure, but Palmer played on a horrible team with a horrible defense in a very tough division. In the whimpy NFC West, his schedule would be a cake walk.

Palmer to the 49ers for a 4th rounder and concentrate on drafting defense, WR and a successor to Gore.

Edit: **That said, Jerry Rice, Tim Brown and Marvin Harrison wouldn't look good with Alex Smith, JT O'Sullivan and the other cast of horrible QBs the 49ers have trotted out since Garcia left.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

Palmer to the 49ers for a 4th rounder and concentrate on drafting defense, WR and a successor to Gore.

The 3 areas of need are QB, CB, OLB. There has been debate about where Harbaugh will decide to get a QB, whether through trade (Josh Johnson from Tampa, who Harbaugh had at SDS has been mentioned) but I'm sure lots of misinformation will come out over the next 6 weeks.