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Old 12-24-2020, 07:41 PM   #121
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While the pain and struggles he's had to endure are terrible, it doesn't excuse is actions now. His charity and activist work may offset his past idiocy but it doesn't give him free-reign to be an a-hole now.
That's the thing though. He thinks it absolutely gives him free reign. And boy howdy, don't you dare tell him that it doesn't. Guy goes OFFFFFT.
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You're right it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone at this point as an albertan i am quite embarrassed at our province
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That's the Spirit! That's the Alberta I remember. That's the attitude that got you into a crumbling broke government that can't keep there heath care going in a pandemic.. hell didn't even call a health care emergency until what just over a month ago? Just so a far right leader could call the shots ? The party that regularly has had to kick people out for nazi associations? The broke province that has no pst and only counted on gas as their cash cow?

Now look I love Alberta's natural landscape, the majority of people can be all right. I was born and raised there. 95% of my canadian family members are there . Let's not pretend this has been Alberta's year and that government has done anything praise worth this year. It's a pretty big sideshow.
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I expect that hockey players are not what I see on TV - they are human and are often weird, terrible, or stupid (or all three). Once they retire and don’t have a public relations team breathing down their necks, social media gives them the opportunity to show everyone who they really are.

It’s disappointing to see a favourite like Theo show off that he is an even dumber, more paranoid version of Brett Wilson. I think it’s the danger of seeing hockey players as role models or heroes because it blends the on ice player with the off ice persona.

Hockey players are often uneducated people who are very skilled at one thing - expecting them to be good at anything other than that one thing is probably our own fault. However, it still sucks to see Theo leave his own reputation in tatters and hurt his ability to be an effective champion for people who are going through similar experiences that he did.
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I don't have twitter or anything but I will check out the odd feed once in a while to see what the hype is all about. I checked out Theo, a player who I loved growing up, attended his hockey school and was childhood friends with his son for a little while. Amazing player and passionate Canadian. Most of us are aware of what he and other's have gone through and he has done a great job in his second career as a speaker.


Looking at his feed, I can safely say I don't really agree with a lot of what he has to say about a lot of things and on other topics, I may. I just think it's tough to hold athletes to different standards today on the social media world. They are in essence's victim's of the typical downside of social media, only being fed the stories and feeds that the powers at be allow. He's probably reading and watching a lot of garbage and than posting it as well and informing an opinion. We all need to be careful.

I have literally had conversations with people on the completely different side of the scale when it came to vaccine's, safety, Covid etc. I just recall in June when Trump was saying we can probably have a vaccine before the end of the year and he was getting roasted by pretty much everyone. Trump says crazy things but was anybody in the media doing their job and inquiring?? Or were they just going by other experts who predicated a 12-18 month timeline from Feb/March 2020?

I recall reading an article in a Greek newspaper about a few of the influential Greek's and the fight against Covid. The CEO of Pfizer and founder of Regeneron and others etc. In the article the Pfizer CEO said that we can probably wrap up clinical trials of their vaccine by October with distribution after if all things go well. They ended up being middle of November but the point I am making is that in some instances, we are all just spewing our garbage, right or wrong.

I have had countless debates with people on the safety of these vaccines with a bunch of people convinced this is poison and deadly and others believing this is the safest medical invention in history.

I will probably take a vaccine when it is available to me in my age group before the end of 2021 but let's all just relax a bit and be rationale. Many many people who claim they are "pro science" without even thinking logically or doing the most basic of homework. Even a lot of the experts we see on tv, print and other media use the words approved, very safe, ready to go etc.

People may be interested to know that the existing vaccine's in Canada and the USA are NOT Health Canada and FDA Approved. They have only been authorized for emergency use based upon very early evidence that shows a strong benefit of preventing Covid. Once more time has passed, more trials have been completed and more people have been vaccinated we will have more data for a probable approval down the road.

Don't believe me? Here is Pfizer's twitter feed indicating the same thing and Health Canada's indicating authorized use with conditions.

https://twitter.com/pfizer/status/1337881181296144395
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...lications.html


I know a lot of the stuff Theo is posting probably makes people very upset but let's try and have an understanding about other people as well and try and address their concerns too.
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I have literally had conversations with people on the completely different side of the scale when it came to vaccine's, safety, Covid etc. I just recall in June when Trump was saying we can probably have a vaccine before the end of the year and he was getting roasted by pretty much everyone. Trump says crazy things but was anybody in the media doing their job and inquiring?? Or were they just going by other experts who predicated a 12-18 month timeline from Feb/March 2020?
Before Trump said anything, Fauci was already saying that there was potential for the vaccine to be distributed widespread by January 2021. While Trump was saying before the end of the year, a lot experts were saying that was a possibility if everything went well but cautioned that there could be set backs. Many noted that even if the vaccine was developed by the end of the year the next challenge would be making sure there was the proper distribution system in place - sterile needles, proper refrigeration etc. while noting that clinical trials would need to be reduced by their respective governments - which was the case.

Instead Trump was doing what Trump does....talking out of his ass based on probably half paying attention to a briefing from Fauci and only listening to what he wanted to hear and then repeating that to his base as though it was an uncontested truth. Keep in mind that the longer this went on and the more he diverged from the talking points that Fauci was already saying to the American people the more nonsensical and wrong his assertions became.

It's especially important to realize that the vaccines that Trump was banking on, the one he was thinking he would have 300 million Americans be given by January via project Warpspeed was the AstraZeneca vaccine, not Pfizer or Moderna. So he pretty much got lucky that the horses he didn't bet on had a better race to make his half-truths somewhat right. But it's not like you can even give him part marks for his cheating because:

https://fr.reuters.com/article/idUKW1N2FG089
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Unless you think the USA is going get another 98 million doses done in the next 4 days, you can see how wrong he has been.
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Twitter is akin to getting bitter drunk. People post stuff on Twitter that they probably wouldn't say in every day conversation with every day people, but on Twitter they feel that underlying sense of confidence provided by the platform, much like when someone gets bitter drunk, they feel that underlying sense of confidence brought on by the drink. I know that's a bad analogy considering it's Theo, but I still feel its apt.

I follow one individual on Twitter who's got a decent following and has decent intelligent posts mixed in with nothing but bitter rants, nothingburger tweets in order to tweet, etc. One of the tweets they posted that always sticks with me was "I'm nothing in real life like I am on Twitter." I find that hard to believe. The platform drives crazy town and I feel like people's personas on Twitter are pretty close to their real selves once you peel away the niceties and filters of every day conversation. Obviously, some more than others.
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Before Trump said anything, Fauci was already saying that there was potential for the vaccine to be distributed widespread by January 2021. While Trump was saying before the end of the year, a lot experts were saying that was a possibility if everything went well but cautioned that there could be set backs. Many noted that even if the vaccine was developed by the end of the year the next challenge would be making sure there was the proper distribution system in place - sterile needles, proper refrigeration etc. while noting that clinical trials would need to be reduced by their respective governments - which was the case.

Instead Trump was doing what Trump does....talking out of his ass based on probably half paying attention to a briefing from Fauci and only listening to what he wanted to hear and then repeating that to his base as though it was an uncontested truth. Keep in mind that the longer this went on and the more he diverged from the talking points that Fauci was already saying to the American people the more nonsensical and wrong his assertions became.

It's especially important to realize that the vaccines that Trump was banking on, the one he was thinking he would have 300 million Americans be given by January via project Warpspeed was the AstraZeneca vaccine, not Pfizer or Moderna. So he pretty much got lucky that the horses he didn't bet on had a better race to make his half-truths somewhat right. But it's not like you can even give him part marks for his cheating because:

https://fr.reuters.com/article/idUKW1N2FG089


Unless you think the USA is going get another 98 million doses done in the next 4 days, you can see how wrong he has been.

I am far from some big time Trump fan but if we do recall, back in the May/June timeframe there was literally almost nobody in the media who was predicting a vaccine, in arms, before the end of the year globally.

The general consensus was that a vaccine was probably 12-18 months away and if we could do it by the end of the year, it would have needed to be a miracle. Now, some people within government, industry and experts like Facuci may have had more information as time went on.

What I am saying, instead of blasting Trump and or kissing his a**, perhaps some quality investigative journalism may have been in order. This leads to a broader conversation where the US media has just literally become garbage across the board serving nobody but their own pocketbooks in my opinion. We don't really have the same level of problem in Canada.

In any event, I recall reading this piece https://www.ekathimerini.com/253709/...ine-by-october

The CEO of Pfizer is saying what may be possible and all the US media wanted to do was crush Trump or praise him. It was insane. When I read the above mentioned piece and mentioned it to friends, people are so into their own story and narrative that they were discounting what was being said.

People just don't have a rationale moment and can't even clearly think straight at all with regards to Covid, logic isn't coming into play for a lot of people. Few have the ability to process, compare and not absorb the noise.

The same thing is happening with people who don't believe this to be real and for it to be "just a flu". At 3000 deaths a day on an average run rate in America that's approx 1.1 million deaths a year. I believe cancer killed 600k in the US last year.

Before Covid if a university grad with a masters in Mathematics said something along the lines of "Cancer is a nothing thing, it's like a cold" people would need to get that person medical attention quick. Now? Its common amongst millions of people.

I have gone off topic enough, I was just trying to highlight that people like Theo are just rehashing their own twitter feeds and feelings. It's becoming a big big problem and it's becoming a problem for everybody. We have a difficult time with the truth, facts and proper journalism and nobody is benefiting.
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I am far from some big time Trump fan but if we do recall, back in the May/June timeframe there was literally almost nobody in the media who was predicting a vaccine, in arms, before the end of the year globally.
Well this was from before May....

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ine-by-january

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There's a chance that hundreds of millions of doses of a potential COVID-19 vaccine could be available by early next year, Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House coronavirus task force, said Thursday, even though the federal government has not approved a vaccine against the virus.

In an appearance on NBC's Today Show, Fauci was asked whether he thought it was "in the realm of possibility" to have a potential vaccine ready for wide distribution by January.

"I do," Fauci replied. "I mean, I'm obviously part of the team that's involved in that."
It was the cautioning that things needed to go right that everyone else was talking about and there could be setbacks or even poor efficacy to the virus. Trump was just acting like it was a done deal that everyone would be fine by the end of 2020 (or sometimes he said election...).
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He also said "15 cases to zero like a miracle...gone by Easter"

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