2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I highly doubt this will happen.

How would you rank the Flames by likelihood of being traded?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Kakko + NYR 1st for Hanifin (50%) is probably the most we could squeeze... But I would be tempted to push for Perrault over Kakko. I am not as high on Kakko as others seem to be + we have not had much luck with Finns outside of one notable exception.

Yeah a 1st and a prospect should be a given

Question is how good a prospect. I think we would be lucky to get Kakko or Perrault

[MacDaddy77]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Conroy isn't that short-sighted.

Alas, Conroy is not in charge. Anyone who thinks Conroy/Nonis/Pascall have the final say and not Edwards is not in touch with this team.

I have 0 confidence in the Flames picking a direction other than status quo as long as he's the principle owner.

I'm very hopeful for a rebuild/new direction but most certainly a skeptic it will happen.

[Geeoff]

Since the Devils have cap space and the need for a defensemen, what about Hanifin for Dawson Mercer straight up? Mercer's having a struggle this season but has previously had top 6 production and is only 22.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Since the Devils have cap space and the need for a defensemen, what about Hanifin for Dawson Mercer straight up? Mercer's having a struggle this season but has previously had top 6 production and is only 22.

I have heard Mercer is off the table. Holtz on the other hand is not.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Since the Devils have cap space and the need for a defensemen, what about Hanifin for Dawson Mercer straight up? Mercer's having a struggle this season but has previously had top 6 production and is only 22.

Typically you don’t see 22 year olds with almost 200 games averaging 0.57ppg traded for a rental.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

Alas, Conroy is not in charge. Anyone who thinks Conroy/Nonis/Pascall have the final say and not Edwards is not in touch with this team.

I have 0 confidence in the Flames picking a direction other than status quo as long as he's the principle owner.

I'm very hopeful for a rebuild/new direction but most certainly a skeptic it will happen.

I think it is Edwards last resort but they called it a retool and then traded Iggy and Bouwmeester but it was a rebuild by pretty much any standard. The team didn't really optimize going into it but they did bottom otu for 3 yeas straight.


Conroy: Asset management, focus on youth top priorities for Flames heading into draft
Feaster:“I don’t want to use the word ‘rebuild,’ ” said Flames GM Jay Feaster in a Calgary Sun report. “We want to bring some more young players into this organization.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I have heard Mercer is off the table. Holtz on the other hand is not.

I'd take Holtz over a later 1st any day of the week

[genetic_phreek]

Not sure why some already think Kakko is a bust at 22. If there's anyone I'd compare him to is our very own Lindholm. They were similar in production and were also playing behind a deep group of forwards. Lindholm didn't pop until he came to us at 24 years old.

I'd be all over getting Kakko. As Sandman mentioned, skates well, big, great shot and great hands, just hasn't been able to put it all together yet.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Not sure why some already think Kakko is a bust at 22. If there's anyone I'd compare him to is our very own Lindholm. They were similar in production and were also playing behind a deep group of forwards. Lindholm didn't pop until he came to us at 24 years old.

I'd be all over getting Kakko. As Sandman mentioned, skates well, big, great shot and great hands, just hasn't been able to put it all together yet.

Also he was born the same year as Zary

A few months older than Zary and same age as Pelletier

Just put it in perspective

[Tbull8]

Tanev + Hanifin to the devils for Holtz + 1st

[Circa89]

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Originally Posted by Monahammer

I am not as high on Kakko as others seem to be + we have not had much luck with Finns outside of one notable exception.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

How would you rank the Flames by likelihood of being traded?

I would rank them:
Lindholm: 99% traded - I don't like saying 100% but he is gone. My intel is unless someone really overpays him he will go UFA. He wants his payday. I don't think a sign and trade will happen here.

Hanifin: 75% traded - If the Flames go on a serious run there is a chance they put that contract back on the table but the feeling is he will move, probably as close to the deadline as possible for max return. Unlike Lindholm Hanifin is open to sign and trade.

Tanev: 50% - he is happy to extend here but is also open to trade. I think it will depend on the offers, if Conroy can't get what he feels is fair value he will extend him to mentor the young guys.

Dube: ? - The problem with Dube is his value has tanked. He could be included in a bigger deal but on his own I don't see him bringing back much.

Mangiapane: Can't see anyone touching that contract.

Markstrom: 25% - I do think there is a market for Markstrom actually, not sure if he wants to move or not though.

Vladar: - 75% - Only reason this is not 100% is the 25% it is Marky moving instead. Flames need to make room for Wolf regardless.

Coleman: 25% - I think there would be serious interest if the Flames retain, not sure his appetite to move.

Kadri: 1% - I don't see him going anywhere.

Huberdeau: You have a better chance of winning the lottery 7 times in a row.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yeah a 1st and a prospect should be a given

Question is how good a prospect. I think we would be lucky to get Kakko or Perrault

I doubt Perrault is on the table.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Huberdeau: You have a better chance of winning the lottery 7 times in a row.

It’s nice to know you think there is a chance.

[stemit14]

I think Conroy is committed to trading the UFAs and making the team younger. What he’ll have to avoid is the temptation to go after big ticket UFAs in free agency. Treliving always could not help himself with tha no matter what pass the team was in. For example… Chandler Stephenson is a UFA this offseason that I think Treliving would have gone after if he was still GM in Calgary. Another guy that’s done well in the playoffs, 29 years old and looking for a big raise after getting his cup… and he’s from western Canada. I think whatever team that steps up and pays him $7 million/year is going to really regret it. Conroy needs to just stay out of the big UFA market.

It’s fine if he wants to go after some guys looking for 1 year “show me” deals that could potentially be flipped at the deadline. But this team is finally going to be in a position to use its cap space wisely. There will be teams looking to shed salary next year in preparation for going after Draisaitl and McDavid over the next two years. The flames could gain picks/prospects from those teams to take on some cap.

[Kolsch]

Just browsing some top teams lineups and Lindholm looks like he would be an excellent fit on NYR.

The Rangers currently have Blake Wheeler as their top line RW. They have Kakko (3pts in 20 gms) and Chytil (6pts in 10 gms) both on LTIR. Their 3rd line is Cuylle-Bonino-Brodzinski. Who?

If Chytil comes back (I believe he is having a really rough go with concussions) he is a good top 6 player. Kakko has been given a lot of leash, including early time on the top lines, and has 7pts in 29 playoff games for them - I'd be looking for an upgrade if I was their GM.

If Gabe Perreault is available I'd consider Lindholm 1-for-1 plus whatever needs to be worked out cap wise. I doubt he is, but NYR still has their next two firsts and some other decent prospects, so I think they'd be a solid trading partner.

[gvitaly]

Noodles was just speculating on Barn Burner that Markstrom at $4M for 3 cup runs could be worth 2 x 1sts to a team, maybe a top prospect + 2 firsts. I want some of what he's smoking, but if he's right we should be all over it.

https://youtu.be/q7D-n3uvpvo?t=2142
Around the 36 min mark.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I have heard Mercer is off the table. Holtz on the other hand is not.

Holtz and a good pick, git 'er done.

They can include a dump if needed to make it work.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I would rank them:
Lindholm: 99% traded - I don't like saying 100% but he is gone. My intel is unless someone really overpays him he will go UFA. He wants his payday. I don't think a sign and trade will happen here.

Hanifin: 75% traded - If the Flames go on a serious run there is a chance they put that contract back on the table but the feeling is he will move, probably as close to the deadline as possible for max return. Unlike Lindholm Hanifin is open to sign and trade.

Tanev: 50% - he is happy to extend here but is also open to trade. I think it will depend on the offers, if Conroy can't get what he feels is fair value he will extend him to mentor the young guys.

Dube: ? - The problem with Dube is his value has tanked. He could be included in a bigger deal but on his own I don't see him bringing back much.

Mangiapane: Can't see anyone touching that contract.

Markstrom: 25% - I do think there is a market for Markstrom actually, not sure if he wants to move or not though.

Vladar: - 75% - Only reason this is not 100% is the 25% it is Marky moving instead. Flames need to make room for Wolf regardless.

Coleman: 25% - I think there would be serious interest if the Flames retain, not sure his appetite to move.

Kadri: 1% - I don't see him going anywhere.

Huberdeau: You have a better chance of winning the lottery 7 times in a row.

Lindholm almost guaranteeing he's going to be a rental really tanks his potential value.
Tre's work to get him signed to such a great deal is going to bite us in the ass a bit here