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Old 07-08-2024, 07:15 AM   #13921
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Russians bombed the Children's Hospital In Kyiv this morning, the scene is pretty horrible.
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Old 07-08-2024, 08:10 AM   #13922
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A short overview of how the war is going right now.

Short version: not much is happening. Attritional warfare, battlelines moving at a glacial pace, both sides are kind of succeeding in what they're trying to do, air campaigns from both sides are preparing for the arrival of F-16:s.
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Old 07-08-2024, 09:23 AM   #13923
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Russians bombed the Children's Hospital In Kyiv this morning, the scene is pretty horrible.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...4c0c14f90588b5

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cl4y1pjk2dzo

I imagine most people here don't, but avoid russian socials if you don't want to rage. They are absolutely loving this and literally celebrating at murdering children with cancer.
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Old 07-08-2024, 07:30 PM   #13924
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The complete impotence of the West to neutralize Russia is truly astounding and infuriating.


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Old 07-09-2024, 01:59 PM   #13925
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For some reason, Twitter keeps showing and pushing tons of tweets stating that Ukraine bombed their own children's hospital.

But practically every new source states that it was Russia.

Is Twitter full of bots, or is their algorithm intentionally pro-Putin?
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Old 07-09-2024, 02:13 PM   #13926
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Twitter is full of bots and prorussian sock puppets like Jackson Hinkle. Anytime there is something damaging to russia they throw on the misinformation firehose, MH-17 shoot down was same situation. The still shot of the cruise missile that hit the hospital clearly shows it was a KH-101 from russia.
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Old 07-09-2024, 02:14 PM   #13927
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For some reason, Twitter keeps showing and pushing tons of tweets stating that Ukraine bombed their own children's hospital.

But practically every new source states that it was Russia.

Is Twitter full of bots, or is their algorithm intentionally pro-Putin?
I saw a report this morning that there is a ton a misinformation coming out of Russia this morning. Sounds like the bots or their twitter network are working overtime.
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Old 07-09-2024, 02:33 PM   #13928
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Elmo likes to help run cover for them as well.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1810769886563745860
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The complete impotence of the West to neutralize Russia is truly astounding and infuriating.


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Both physically, and online.
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Old 07-09-2024, 03:53 PM   #13930
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Both physically, and online.
The fact that Canada and the U.S. aren't making a huge, permanent campaign to flag, remove, and educate people on social media misinformation is weird to me. War in Ukraine, domestic politics, and any other domain where social media is rotting people's brains.

I'm quickly becoming onboard with treating social media like smoking, drinking, or doing drugs. It has problems, it harms others, and its bad for your health.

If people like the U.S. Surgeon General (Vice Admiral Vivek Murthy) are advocating for it, and CPHO of Canada, Theresa Tam have raised numerous flags about it, then it might be wise to start listening to health experts.
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The fact that Canada and the U.S. aren't making a huge, permanent campaign to flag, remove, and educate people on social media misinformation is weird to me. War in Ukraine, domestic politics, and any other domain where social media is rotting people's brains.

I'm quickly becoming onboard with treating social media like smoking, drinking, or doing drugs. It has problems, it harms others, and its bad for your health.

If people like the U.S. Surgeon General (Vice Admiral Vivek Murthy) are advocating for it, and CPHO of Canada, Theresa Tam have raised numerous flags about it, then it might be wise to start listening to health experts.
It’s hard to measure and prove causality so it’s harder to get buy in.

Studies showing increased anxiety and decreased attention spans are a lot tougher to comprehend than the dangers of smoking.

On the misinformation front I think the biggest challange is information that is factual but misinterpreted or grossly mistate the causality. So any program that tries to fight misinformation will run into this challange. Now maybe focusing people on how to identify misinformation rather than what particular post is misinformation might work. I agree with you though that something needs to be done to combat this.
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Old 07-10-2024, 08:11 AM   #13932
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The fact that Canada and the U.S. aren't making a huge, permanent campaign to flag, remove, and educate people on social media misinformation is weird to me. War in Ukraine, domestic politics, and any other domain where social media is rotting people's brains.

I'm quickly becoming onboard with treating social media like smoking, drinking, or doing drugs. It has problems, it harms others, and its bad for your health.

If people like the U.S. Surgeon General (Vice Admiral Vivek Murthy) are advocating for it, and CPHO of Canada, Theresa Tam have raised numerous flags about it, then it might be wise to start listening to health experts.
You do realize while a relatively small in scale form of social media, that the platform you are currently posting on is by definition - social media?
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Old 07-10-2024, 08:18 AM   #13933
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Does CP use algorithms to foment curated disinformation? Did you know CP was around on vBulletin before social media?

I'm confident you know the difference.
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Old 07-11-2024, 09:41 AM   #13934
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If you are interested in how the Russian tank fleet might look over the coming years here are some of my predictions for what will likely happen, if the war continues at the same intensity.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1811015708173652046
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Because Putin turned it on them and made the west look impotent.


As soon as Putin started being, playing unhinged about nukes, he forced the West to change their position.


Remember he started showing off his upgraded nuclear arsenal long before the invasion of Ukraine.


The West went into this proxy war with a few cards to play, in terms of supplying weapons, and threatening a greater expansion of the war.



Putin countered by basically playing 2 minutes to midnight by Iron Maiden. Then the Wests hesitancy caused Ukraine to lose the initiative in this war, and the Russians who have more men and equipment and don't care about costs, began grinding down Ukraine which has less men and equipment. And frankly the West got caught in the same economic quaigmire as they wanted to impose on the Russians, and began to throw billions at this war, to no great effect.


This helped to turn opinion against Ukraine militarily.


And now NATO can't really do much more to help unless its covertly, and I'm betting that comes in the form of experienced NATO F-16 drivers that have suddenly gotten shiny Ukraine passports.



Where does this go now? A years long war with the West and Russia spending like crazy, while Ukraine loses an entire generation of young men and woman, in a semi high tech war of attrition?


This proxy war by the West and war of aggression by the Russians has not gone how either side wanted it to go, and Ukraine is stuck in the middle.



Its going to come down to how long Western voters are willing to bear the cost burden on this war.
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If you are interested in how the Russian tank fleet might look over the coming years here are some of my predictions for what will likely happen, if the war continues at the same intensity.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1811015708173652046

Sorry I don't have twitter, is there a way to read this thread?
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Sorry I don't have twitter, is there a way to read this thread?
You can use this site:
https://unrollnow.com


You just paste the tweet url and it gives you this:



https://unrollnow.com/status/1811015708173652046
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Old 07-12-2024, 06:57 AM   #13940
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Sukhoi Superjet 100NEW-95 crushed near Moscow
https://twitter.com/user/status/1811745272491315396


It seems that Russia is preparing people for its next terrorist attack
https://twitter.com/user/status/1811744116352438602












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