2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Wolven

I would love it if the Flames could make that trade and get Misa. I wanted that even before this season started.... I just cannot fathom what we could offer that the Sharks might have interest in outside of a package built around Andersson and our 1sts.

The Bruins could make an interesting offer. If they are heading to a full rebuild then maybe Pastrnak would be willing to waive his NMC. Would the Sharks do their 1st for Pastrnak straight up? Would the Bruins expect more than the Sharks 1st for a guy scoring 40, 61, 47, and 43 goals over his last 4 years?

I don’t think the Bruins are rebuilding. Especially given what Zadorov has to say. H.Linholm and McAvoy, their two best D, missed considerable time, Swayman had a down year after missing the start of the season, he should bounce back, Pasternak is still one of the best wingers/goal scorers in the game, also hearing E.Lindholm was dealing with a bad back this year.

A lot went wrong, especially on the injury front. They’ll have $34M in cap space for next year. I don’t see the Bruins rebuilding even if they should.

[Incogneto]

Would you trade our 4 first round picks over the next 2 years for Bedard?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Incogneto

Would you trade our 4 first round picks over the next 2 years for Bedard?

I think a better question is, why would Chicago want to do that?

[Incogneto]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I think a better question is, why would Chicago want to do that?

Kinda going off the feeling about Bedard being unhappy in Chicago, wanting out....

[Heavy Jack]

With Vladar apparently being on SJ radar too I wonder if including his rights along with Andersson and the two firsts is enough to get into the top 5, throw in a Poirier to help push it over the line? Michael Misa would be quite the add considering the significant ties we have to him with his bro being drafted and Parekh as well.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Incogneto

Kinda going off the feeling about Bedard being unhappy in Chicago, wanting out....

I think he has refuted that.

Without question Bédard needs more support.

Humour me with a long shot of a suggestion. What about Huberdeau to Chicago? I think Huberdeau has proven himself to be a quality leader. I’m sure cap hit would be an issue with Chicago but if the flames agreed to retain, say, $1M/season, might that start a conversation?

[Royle9]

I’ll play devils advocate here and say that Vladar, Andersson and 2 late 1st’s wouldn’t be enough for SJ to trade the 3rd.

1 - Andersson’s going to be 29 looking for a big contract. His play this year declined significantly and his impact out there was noticeable to all teams.
2 - Our 1st’s are going to be late round picks, nothing of impact most likely
3 - Other teams could offer better, Florida’s for example is looking to move Ekblad who is likely more desirable than Andersson
4 - How well does Andersson fit the window for SJ? I see a fit, but I don’t know about the price. They could wait 1 more year and get him for free, I don’t think they’re pushing for a cup next season.

When it comes to these types of trades I always reverse the idea in my head and act as if Calgary had the 3rd pick. Would I be happy to toss that away for Andersson and 2 late 1sts?? I’m not so sure, maybe last year when Andersson looked like a completely different player.

Guess it would come down to where SJ wants to be and if they think he can turn it around there for them.
I’d argue if they were defensively focused they would maybe blink at it if you threw in 1 of Bruz, Morin or Mews as well.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

With Vladar apparently being on SJ radar too I wonder if including his rights along with Andersson and the two firsts is enough to get into the top 5, throw in a Poirier to help push it over the line? Michael Misa would be quite the add considering the significant ties we have to him with his bro being drafted and Parekh as well.

The rights for a backup have no value. They will just sign him if both parties are interested.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

With Vladar apparently being on SJ radar too I wonder if including his rights along with Andersson and the two firsts is enough to get into the top 5, throw in a Poirier to help push it over the line? Michael Misa would be quite the add considering the significant ties we have to him with his bro being drafted and Parekh as well.

Vladar is on SJ’s radar? I heard that being discussed as a possibility on Flsmes Talk but, if I heard correctly, that was just spitballing from Stienberg and Vickers. I don’t think there was any legitimacy to it.

I suspect it’s going to take a lot more than Andersson and a handful of picks for SJ to move their pick. First of all the lottery would need to be had. Big difference between 1OA and 5OA. If it is 1OA and SJ wants D, Schaffer is tough to beat. If I’m Mike Grier the only player the Flames would have to offer that I’d consider is Parekh.

[Bonded]

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/bl...o-4-draft-pick
These stories get floated before the draft fairly often. No team wants to pay what it will cost

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Vladar is on SJ’s radar? I heard that being discussed as a possibility on Flsmes Talk but, if I heard correctly, that was just spitballing from Stienberg and Vicker.
S. I don’t think there was any legitimacy to it.

I suspect it’s going to take a lot more than Andersson and a handful of picks for SJ to move their pick. First of all the lottery would need to be had. Big difference between 1OA and 5OA. If it is 1OA and SJ wants D, Schaffer is tough to beat. If I’m Mike Grier the only player the Glames would have to offer that I’d consider is Parekh.

If they pick first, yeah they would get Schaffer. I think the reasoning in this thread is, Schaffer goes before SJ drafts and then they trade the pick to get help on D.

But as others say, not sure any package built around Ras gets us that pick. Other teams can probably do better.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I’ll play devils advocate here and say that Vladar, Andersson and 2 late 1st’s wouldn’t be enough for SJ to trade the 3rd.

Why do you say 3rd Royle? I realize they still have to have the draft lottery(May 5th or 6th I read) but San Jose still has the best odds to pick 1st.

[reddude]

two goofs lol that made me laugh but I agree 100%

[prizefighterinferno]

IMO a Calgary offer than makes San Jose think looks more like

Zary, Andersson, 2025 first (NJ), 2026 1st (higher of Vegas/Calgary), D prospect

It would hurt. That might not even be enough (from Grier's pov). But San Jose would be thinking they want to accelerate things in the short term and try to build toward a winning culture sooner than later, and Calgary would pony up because they believe Misa is the type of elite talent that you can throw into the mix with Parekh/Wolf (and their myriad of young wingers and D) to be able to grow a real contender as they all mature together over the next 3-5 years.

Would be cool just for the ballsiness of it all despite the unlikelihood.

[Enoch Root]

That is way too much for a single prospect that is not generally considered a franchise level prospect.

Yes, the Flames need a #1 C, but overpaying for Misa is a mistake. Fans need to be patient.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Incogneto

Kinda going off the feeling about Bedard being unhappy in Chicago, wanting out....

That's not coming from Bedard at all. It really just speculation that he shouldn't sign a long term contract because of the rising cap, not because of Bedard's dissatisfaction.

Chicago remains in a very good place because of their plethora of young players, their premium prospects, their ton of coming draft picks, their cap situation, and their destination.

They made big strides at the end of the year.

It will take a few years to be sure, but it should eventually come.

But if Bedard was on the market, it would take a tion to get him.

And it would start with some premium assets.

But he's not on the market anyway.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

If they pick first, yeah they would get Schaffer. I think the reasoning in this thread is, Schaffer goes before SJ drafts and then they trade the pick to get help on D.

But as others say, not sure any package built around Ras gets us that pick. Other teams can probably do better.

Yeah, I think it would take another teams top prospect(s) or young player (23 or younger) making an impact right now. Or a superstar in his prime with control.

Especially this year with the cap set to jump. I don’t think any combination of Andersson and the Flames collection of mid to late first rounds picks, in a weak draft no less, gets you anywhere close.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Vladar is on SJ’s radar? I heard that being discussed as a possibility on Flsmes Talk but, if I heard correctly, that was just spitballing from Stienberg and Vickers. I don’t think there was any legitimacy to it.

I suspect it’s going to take a lot more than Andersson and a handful of picks for SJ to move their pick. First of all the lottery would need to be had. Big difference between 1OA and 5OA. If it is 1OA and SJ wants D, Schaffer is tough to beat. If I’m Mike Grier the only player the Flames would have to offer that I’d consider is Parekh.

From the off season thread

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Spoke with Sharks sources. San Jose is looking at right handed D (Ekblad is option 1 and then guys like Pionk) etc to sign this offseason but if that doesn’t work they would trade for one as a plan B. Andersson’s name came up in conversation. He has a 6 team no trade clause and San Jose I’m told is not one of the 6.

Sharks are also high on Vladar and have been told they would like to add him.

[Heavy Jack]

NJD 1st
Florida 1st
Vladar rights or signed to an extension??
Andersson
Mews

I mean yea that’s expensive but we need to move on from Andersson to open up spots, Vladar is replaceable and would only ever be a backup here, Mews and the firsts hurt but… I agree we don’t want to rush anything though and it would have to only be considered if the Flames truly think a #1 franchise center would be available with the SJ pick. Is that Misa? I get where Enoch is coming from for sure… it’ll be a fun offseason at any rate!

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

From the off season thread

Didn’t see that.

Nevertheless, Jiri’s right. If a pending UFA goalie has ever been traded for his rights only, that would be a first as far as I’m aware.

I think the list likely outcome is Vladar hits the market and signs where he gets his best offer.