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Old 04-18-2025, 06:56 PM   #13781
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I think next year is the year the defence gets overhauled.

Parekh
Kuznetsov
Solovyov
Poirier
Brzustewicz

All have a shot at making the main line up.

This year and last added a lot of young forwards.

Coronato
Klapka
Pospisil
Zary
Frost
Farabee

I don’t see many more young forwards ready to step in within the organization. If the forwards are touched at all it will be via UFAs or trades. Flames need goal scoring and have tons of defenders. I can see some defencemen being traded for forwards.
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Old 04-18-2025, 07:22 PM   #13782
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A guy who I’m interested in is Byram. I’ll acknowledge there likely isn’t fit but with some creativity on one side or the other, who knows.
I think the Sabres are going to need to move Byram. He is putting up similar numbers to Power and is likely to be asking for similar dollars ($8M). It is going to be very difficult to keep him while also giving raises to their other RFAs.

If they try to lowball him then he likely insists on a 2 year deal to walk himself to UFA.

I wouldn't offer sheet him but with the Sabres already saying the Flames are not good trade partners just a couple of months ago, I cannot see that really being much different now.

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On 960 this morning Frank threw out Peterka as a guy the Flames should look at, perhaps as an offer sheet.
Peterka doesn't make sense. He is second on the Sabres for points and I expect that they are going to lock up him, McLeod, and Quinn. Also, the cost to acquire him is going to be in the 1st+2nd+3rd bracket.
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Old 04-18-2025, 07:34 PM   #13783
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Not sure if this was shared, but Sharks open to trading their 1st round pick.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1913307917656142289

What would it be worth? Do the Flames have anything they can put together?

Centre Michael Misa looks really interesting. Teammate of Parekh, brother of Flames prospect Luke Misa. 134p in 65gp.
I would love it if the Flames could make that trade and get Misa. I wanted that even before this season started.... I just cannot fathom what we could offer that the Sharks might have interest in outside of a package built around Andersson and our 1sts.

The Bruins could make an interesting offer. If they are heading to a full rebuild then maybe Pastrnak would be willing to waive his NMC. Would the Sharks do their 1st for Pastrnak straight up? Would the Bruins expect more than the Sharks 1st for a guy scoring 40, 61, 47, and 43 goals over his last 4 years?
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Old 04-18-2025, 07:43 PM   #13784
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Is Misa worth a boat load of picks + Andersson? In a year where we don't already know who is going first overall, I wouldn't make a huge move to move up to #1 personally.
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Old 04-18-2025, 07:47 PM   #13785
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Huby - Bedard - Coronato

Yes please! I’d give up 3 x 20 overall picks for that. Is that really all it would cost?
It wouldn't matter what it would cost, the Blackhawks would match it.
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Old 04-18-2025, 07:50 PM   #13786
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Is Misa worth a boat load of picks + Andersson? In a year where we don't already know who is going first overall, I wouldn't make a huge move to move up to #1 personally.
Personally, I would back up the truck, and there's few assets in our organization I wouldn't be willing to give.
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That makes you hope the Sharks don't win the lottery.

If they are picking 1st overall they just take Schaefer

But if they drop to 2nd or3rd then maybe you can find a way to trade up
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Is Misa worth a boat load of picks + Andersson? In a year where we don't already know who is going first overall, I wouldn't make a huge move to move up to #1 personally.
The short answer is Yes.

The Flames have pretty good pieces coming together in all of the other positions. I would easily give up Andersson and/or all of our draft picks for this year to the Sharks for Misa. I just don't think they would go for it.

Maybe if the deal is Andersson + NJD 1st + Mews? Or swap Mews for Brzustewicz?

I don't know how far one has to go to make it realistic but at the same time I know that a lot of the bias here will say that whatever we offer won't be enough....
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Old 04-18-2025, 07:54 PM   #13789
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Andersson and our 2 firsts would be absolutely worth it.
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Personally, I would back up the truck, and there's few assets in our organization I wouldn't be willing to give.
Question would be what makes sense? They would want now players you would assume if they are willing to move the pick.

Anderson, nj 1st this year, our first next year. Coleman might have some interest, maybe pospisil. Could another team beat that probably, assuming Parekh is off limits.

Possibly some of our wing prospects could come into play if their scouts really liked a guy.
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Imo the only sliver of a chance we have to trade up for Misa comes if we win the lottery and have 6th OA. 6th+ Mews+ something else painful if the type of cost. No way anyone wants Andersson in this type of deal.

Who would do 6oa+ Coronato? I would.
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Old 04-18-2025, 08:12 PM   #13792
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Imo the only sliver of a chance we have to trade up for Misa comes if we win the lottery and have 6th OA. 6th+ Mews+ something else painful if the type of cost. No way anyone wants Andersson in this type of deal.

Who would do 6oa+ Coronato? I would.
Would rather just pick one of the Cs that will still be there at 6, and keep Coronato.

If you can work it with picks and Andersson, great, but I don't want to give up one of the few good pieces we have
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Speaking of the other Misa, Luke Misa, I haven’t seen anything about him signing or going the NCAA route. Luke had a good regular season and 12 points in 6 playoff games. I’m curious if anyone has heard anything?
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Question would be what makes sense? They would want now players you would assume if they are willing to move the pick.

Anderson, nj 1st this year, our first next year. Coleman might have some interest, maybe pospisil. Could another team beat that probably, assuming Parekh is off limits.

Possibly some of our wing prospects could come into play if their scouts really liked a guy.
I expect that if the Flames are in the conversation at all, it is because the Sharks want to upgrade their D as it is their weakest position. Andersson is an immediate upgrade to their D and if we can add an enticing D prospect then maybe there is a possible trade.

I don't think they would want any of our forwards... but maybe they look at Coleman as that veteran cup winner who won with Goodrow and think they could be a mentoring powerhouse for the kids.
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Old 04-18-2025, 09:13 PM   #13795
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Rantanen has a full NMC he’s not waiving for calgary.

Toronto players are free agents and Winnipeg really had nothing to move n
I was referring to the tweet on the Sharks 1st, and just spitballing what teams might be able to offer Herschel Walker

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Old 04-18-2025, 09:17 PM   #13796
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Andersson and our 2 firsts would be absolutely worth it.
I think it would take Weegar, b prospect and our 2 firsts.
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If the Sharks are picking 2nd or 3rd, Schaefer is gone and they are open to trading their pick for help on defense.. the Flames would conceivably be able to make a strong offer with all of our D depth.

Flames: 3rd overall (Misa)

Sharks: Andersson, Brzustewicz, Poirier, 1st round pick (25'), 2nd round pick (25').

Help on D short term: Andersson (Extension in place?)
Help on D medium term: Brzustewicz, Poirier
Help on D long term: 1st round pick 25', 2nd round pick 25'

Would that be enough? You don't see top-3 picks traded often because of the potential star factor, but San Jose is stocked on forwards already and this would fill in the gaps in their lineup quite well IMO. Thoughts? Out to lunch?

It's a bit uncomfortable decimating our defensive depth, but that's usually a sign that it's close to fair value, no? Flames would still have Weegar, Parekh, Bahl, Pachal.
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If the Sharks are picking 2nd or 3rd, Schaefer is gone and they are open to trading their pick for help on defense.. the Flames would conceivably be able to make a strong offer with all of our D depth.

Flames: 3rd overall (Misa)

Sharks: Andersson, Brzustewicz, Poirier, 1st round pick (25'), 2nd round pick (25').

Help on D short term: Andersson (Extension in place?)
Help on D medium term: Brzustewicz, Poirier
Help on D long term: 1st round pick 25', 2nd round pick 25'

Would that be enough? You don't see top-3 picks traded often because of the potential star factor, but San Jose is stocked on forwards already and this would fill in the gaps in their lineup quite well IMO. Thoughts? Out to lunch?

It's a bit uncomfortable decimating our defensive depth, but that's usually a sign that it's close to fair value, no? Flames would still have Weegar, Parekh, Bahl, Pachal.
The Hershel Walker trade essentially ended up as being for 3 first round picks,3 seconds and a third.

And draft picks in the NFL are way more valuable as high drafted players are often instant starters. Third round picks have exceptional value. You see deadline rentals for 5-7 round picks.

Your trade has an abundance of assets but there is nothing premium about any of the assets. You haven’t included anything that really hurts.

Parekh would need to be the first asset included or any flames offer would be immediately beat.

The mention of a Hershel Walker trade, or the Great Train Robbery, simply spells SJ’s intention to move the pick if someone wants to make an insane offer. And that would need to start with a very premium assets.
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Andersson and our 2 firsts would be absolutely worth it.
Without question
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Old 04-19-2025, 07:42 AM   #13800
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Why would we blow our assets and money on Knies who is a LW?
Because the team’s biggest problem is goal scoring, and he’d plug into the top line.

He’s big, fast, and plays heavy. He’s trending like a guy who’s going to score 35-40 goals every year for the next decade. He gives me Rantanen vibes as a guy who you win playoff rounds with. That’s obviously a personal opinion, but it’s what I see when I watch Leafs games.

I’m not naïve. I know it will take assets to acquire him, that the Leafs will match any lowball offers, and ultimately the acquisition cost needs to make sense. Do I think he’s worth the money/draft capital in the 1st + 3rd round compensation level? Absolutely. Do I think he’s worth it in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd round? If it’s in the high 6’s, low 7’s? Maybe. I don’t know enough about the Leafs salary cap structure to know if that’s an offer they match.
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