2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[FlamesAddiction]

Is it possible the NHL and NHLPA would agree to a one-time buyout window without cap implications for teams to clean-up their cap situations? It really looks like more than half of the league is going to have issues getting under the cap, and only so many players can go to Arizona.

[Knut]

Everyone wanting to dump Kadri forgets he had a pretty tough injury last playoffs, a deep run and a short off-season.

Get him on the Sutter conditioning plan over the summer and I bet comes back one of our top players next year.

Think about how much Toffoli rebounded this season after going through the same thing.

Keep your centers. Bring Zary in on win with Backlund to mentor him. Thats the best thing you can do.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Is it possible the NHL and NHLPA would agree to a one-time buyout window without cap implications for teams to clean-up their cap situations? It really looks like more than half of the league is going to have issues getting under the cap, and only some many players can go to Arizona.

who would we buy out

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

who would we buy out

Markstrom maybe.

[bzoo02]

Originally Posted by Knut

Everyone wanting to dump Kadri forgets he had a pretty tough injury last playoffs, a deep run and a short off-season.

Get him on the Sutter conditioning plan over the summer and I bet comes back one of our top players next year.

Think about how much Toffoli rebounded this season after going through the same thing.

Keep your centers. Bring Zary in on win with Backlund to mentor him. Thats the best thing you can do.

I somewhat agree with this. He looks gassed and disinterested out there.

Hopefully he can have a good summer and the Flames trend of bad one year, good the next continues.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Is it possible the NHL and NHLPA would agree to a one-time buyout window without cap implications for teams to clean-up their cap situations? It really looks like more than half of the league is going to have issues getting under the cap, and only some many players can go to Arizona.

That money would have to be over and above the 50% that the players get or they are never going to agree to it. I'm sure the very rich teams would be fine with it but I don't know if the poorer teams would agree.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Expiring contracts would work in this case.

The UFAs the Flames had were valueless and the cap dumps coming back would have had to go into at least next season. Pretty much every contender is capped out

[GullFoss]

IMO likely the NHLPA agrees to some combination of a higher cap, higher escrow, longer payback period, etc. Between that, buyouts, and lower value UFA/RFA contract values...this will sort itself out.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Knut

Everyone wanting to dump Kadri forgets he had a pretty tough injury last playoffs, a deep run and a short off-season.

Get him on the Sutter conditioning plan over the summer and I bet comes back one of our top players next year.

Think about how much Toffoli rebounded this season after going through the same thing.

Keep your centers. Bring Zary in on win with Backlund to mentor him. Thats the best thing you can do.

Yeah we might need to clear out one contract depending on what happens with the cap but there is a path where this team's lineup could look pretty good next year.

Personally I'm having a discussion with Sutter about roster construction this season... he has to be on board with more of a youth movement because we aren't signing bottom of the lineup veterans. Pelletier and Duehr have injected energy, and IMO replacing Lucic and Lewis with more youth would provide more of that.

Pelletier, Coronato, Zary, Duehr, and Wolf could really change the structure of our roster over the next year with an infusion of energy and skill.

C: Lindholm, Kadri, Backlund, Ruzicka, Zary
LW: Huberdeau, Mangiapane, Dube, Pelletier
RW: Toffoli, Coleman, Coronato, Duehr

LD: Hanifin, Kylington, Zadorov, Gilbert
RD: Andersson, Weegar, Tanev, Stecher

G: Markstrom, Wolf

That roster starts to look pretty deep and injecting 3 first round picks that have been continually growing since their draft (Pelletier, Coronato, Zary) adds that youth and skill.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yeah we need to clear out one contract but there is a path where this team's lineup could look pretty good next year.

Personally I'm having a discussion with Sutter about roster construction this season... he has to be on board with more of a youth movement because we aren't signing bottom of the lineup veterans.

IMO Pelletier, Coronato, Zary, Duehr, and Wolf could really change the structure of our roster over the next year with an infusion of energy and skill.

C: Lindholm, Kadri, Backlund, Ruzicka, Zary
LW: Huberdeau, Mangiapane, Pelletier, Dube
RW: Toffoli, Coleman, Coronato, Duehr

LD: Hanifin, Kylington, Zadorov, Gilbert
RD: Andersson, Weegar, Tanev, Stecher

G: Markstrom, Wolf

That roster starts to look pretty deep and injecting 3 first round picks that have been continually growing since their draft (Pelletier, Coronato, Zary) adds that youth and skill.

Contracts I'd try and move would be Vladar (to make room for Wolf) and Tanev (because I think he's peaked but still has value). I'm on the fence about Mangiapane. He's the biggest question mark from me actually.

I'm not sure you can consider Kylington at this point. He might be done.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Bonded

The UFAs the Flames had were valueless and the cap dumps coming back would have had to go into at least next season. Pretty much every contender is capped out

I meant sell our non-valueless assets who are UFA after next season.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He had offers apparently and some larger than ours.

I am just holding out hope Colorado wants him back somehow and we can make it work.

I'm calling those teams.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I'm calling those teams.

Team mentioned the most was the Islanders and they filled that hole with Bo Horvat

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by bax

Team mentioned the most was the Islanders and they filled that hole with Bo Horvat

Yep.

At this point, it's really not a tradeable contract without taking back something comparable. Maybe in a year or two when the cap increases, but then team trading for him is only getting the worst years of the deal.

Signing veteran UFA's is always a massive risk. There is generally not much of an escape route.

As other have said, best hope is he shows up as a different player next year.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

I meant sell our non-valueless assets who are UFA after next season.

Which they can do this off-season or next deadline. They would have been hard to move at the deadline

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He had offers apparently and some larger than ours.

I am just holding out hope Colorado wants him back somehow and we can make it work.

Colorado didn’t want him at the price he signed for. Flames are stuck with Kadri and Huberdeau

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Yep.

At this point, it's really not a tradeable contract without taking back something comparable. Maybe in a year or two when the cap increases, but then team trading for him is only getting the worst years of the deal.

Signing veteran UFA's is always a massive risk. There is generally not much of an escape route.

As other have said, best hope is he shows up as a different player next year.

Coleman was fine last year after a cup run.

But I will give him the benefit that he might have tired legs from the cup run, but how do we explain the passion missing from your game all season?

[dammage79]

I think Kadri can move. Albeit I think it'd be something similar to a Weber for Subban deal.

As for clearing space for next season, I fully anticipate the Flames to move 2 pending FA's. And they'll be forwards. Why forwards? Because we have 3 or 4 forwards ready today that can play today.

Whereas on defense, Flames have 2 d men signed beyond next season and they really need to focus on building up their depth. So maybe they move a Backlund for some defense.

Going to be tricky waters this off-season to guide the good ship S.S Flames into the future.

Huberdeau isn't going anywhere, that contract is lead weighted cement.

[dammage79]

Oh and the only way this cap crunch/crisis is new to anyone is because they weren't paying attention. We had all the data we needed all the way back to when the FA's and tradees were all signed.

[Calgary4LIfe]

With so many teams close to the cap, I imagine that there will be a handful of pretty good players moving for peanuts this upcoming offseason. Flames should have sold a couple of the RFAs and positioned themselves better to take advantage of the market.