10-09-2020, 06:43 PM
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#1361
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I wonder if the Flames start to look at circling back to Hamonic (barf).
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10-09-2020, 06:43 PM
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#1362
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Crown Royal
I'd go up to 6x6, but would prefer 5x5.
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Your big name hunting has made you blind...Barrie never been worth 5x5...even in his prime. I hope the Oilers sign him because he is the defensive version of Neal.
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10-09-2020, 06:44 PM
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#1363
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Harry Lime
Calgary has just under $11M to re-sign Mangiapane and Kylington, and fill an additional 6 roster spots beyond that. Once they signed Markstrom, facilitating a trade became the next priority.
I think that they get their depth RD through trade (because they need one who can actually play defense, and not an offensive specialist), and then look at adding one more forward through free agency.
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Ryan naturally just feels like the most painless move to free up cap.
They can't love him that much on the 4th line.
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10-09-2020, 06:44 PM
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#1364
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
That's what worries me
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Why? We can't afford that. There is a reason we are linked to Barrie, Tanev and were linked to Brodie, they are going to fall in under 6m.
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10-09-2020, 06:46 PM
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#1365
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Franchise Player
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Barrie doesn't play defense. Tanev doesn't play a physical game. The only defenseman left on the UFA board worth what he is going to get paid is AP.
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10-09-2020, 06:47 PM
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#1366
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
I wonder if the Flames start to look at circling back to Hamonic (barf).
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Seems unlikely, but since he has struggled in 2 of his 3 years with the Flames; I imagine he'd fall in under what Gudas got (3x2.5)
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10-09-2020, 06:48 PM
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#1367
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Flames wouldn’t look at Hamonic unless he was a 3rd pairing guy and paid accordingly.
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10-09-2020, 06:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tkflames
Your big name hunting has made you blind...Barrie never been worth 5x5...even in his prime. I hope the Oilers sign him because he is the defensive version of Neal.
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How is a near 50 point defenseman not worth 5 million? Even 1 dimensional 50 point forwards get 5 million.
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10-09-2020, 06:49 PM
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#1369
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crown Royal
How is a near 50 point defenseman not worth 5 million? Even 1 dimensional 50 point forwards get 5 million.
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Not during the flat cap.
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10-09-2020, 06:49 PM
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#1370
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Franchise Player
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Tanev is a good player IMO
Brodie seems to bounce between over rated and under rated
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10-09-2020, 06:50 PM
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#1371
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Flames wouldn’t look at Hamonic unless he was a 3rd pairing guy and paid accordingly.
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I certainly hope you're right.
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10-09-2020, 06:50 PM
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#1372
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Not during the flat cap.
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Even during the flat cap. Brodie just got that and he is not a 50 point D.
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10-09-2020, 06:51 PM
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#1373
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Lifetime Suspension
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I'd look at Vatanen first, then Tanev.
Then another half dozen names, then trade options, then Hamonic.
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10-09-2020, 06:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Not during the flat cap.
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Worth when it comes to free agents is based on the market and the Brodie and Krug contracts say otherwise.
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10-09-2020, 06:54 PM
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#1375
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Lifetime Suspension
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Barrie is interesting, he has quickly been dumped by two teams in the last two years, and seems like every teams third or fourth choice. He is not competitive, that’s what everyone is looking for. Too much Galyenchuk in him.
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10-09-2020, 06:59 PM
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First Line Centre
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Brodie: "I'm pretty excited, it's a great team close to home and family. Everyone knows about last year and the (cancelled Kadri) trade. They wanted me."
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https://twitter.com/sunhornby/status...17891607097344
This speaks volumes, this is why I post what I believe is going on with the players and the Flames.
Hanifin & Bennett know that Calgary wanted to deal them to Jersey too...
It's not that I want them gone but I see the Flames wanted them gone.
That is a big difference between the types of CP posters, I find a lot of people here usually post only what they personally want to see happen with their team.
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10-09-2020, 07:00 PM
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#1377
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First Line Centre
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Flames have 10M left with current lines as follows:
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Chucky-Backlund-Mang
Lucic-Bennett-Dube
Xxzz-Ryan-xxxx
Gio-Andersson
Hanifin- xxxxx
Valimaki- Kyllington
+ 2 extras
Assume Mang costs 3M, the 2 extras are league min and our 4th line wings are league min.
That leaves 10M - 6M = 4M for a RD.
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Alternate option 1:
Sign Hall (+8M)
Trade Johnny for a 2.75M young top 4. If you find a way to dump Ryan, you can sign a 1M center and get a 4.75M young RD coming back.
Alternate option 2:
Sign Pietrangelo (+8M)
Trade Johnny and Ryan for 2 young Wingers
Alternate option 3:
Sign vaatanen or similar for 4M.
Option 4:
Sign toffoli or similar 4M and move one of our forwards for a 4D
Alternative 5:
Johnny + Picks for a package that bring back a top 6 winger or two and a top 4D for a combined cost of less than 10M coming back.
Options 1,2&5 are the only ones that move the needle on changing the team from continuing to be middle of the road.
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10-09-2020, 07:02 PM
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#1378
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tkflames
0....if we truly feel we need that kind player, then re-sign Gus and get a decent shutdown guy (Tanev or Vaatanen) for the top 4. I have never liked Barries game and it showed worse when he wasnt sheltered in Toronto. If we are going to get a defenseman that we need to shelter...then get Gus because you already know he make the PP click and likely for much less..
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Yeah I'm not really high on him either. I think he will be overpaid and I hope it's not by us. For who's left Tanev at a good contract is something I like. Not sexy but solid D who will improve the team.
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10-09-2020, 07:03 PM
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#1379
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crown Royal
How is a near 50 point defenseman not worth 5 million? Even 1 dimensional 50 point forwards get 5 million.
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Because a 60 point defenseman in Gus is not worth 3m
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10-09-2020, 07:10 PM
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#1380
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I cant see Johnnys motivation being to high if he has to play for the Flames after a summer/ fall full of his name being "shopped"
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