Wow, can't believe that is a law...From Wikipedia...
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It consists of the publication of material which exposes the Christianreligion to scurrility, vilification, ridicule and contempt, and the material must have the tendency to shock and outrage the feelings of Christians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemous_libel
Doesn't take much to outrage the feelings of Christians...Merely saying the truth that Jesus did not, in fact, come back form the dead, is probably enough to get lots of them in a tizzy.
The passage that Jesse Duplantes "received" from God is Amos 6:1, and I'm honestly flummoxed how he managed to so badly misunderstand what he was reading:
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6:1 "Woe to those who are at ease in Zion! And to those who set their confidence in the mountain of Samaria! To the most important of the leaders from among the surrounding nations! To whom the House of Israel approaches!
2. "Venture to Calneh and see! Walk from there to Ḥamat-Rabah, then go down to Gath of the Philistines: Who is doing well from among these kingdoms? Is their territory larger than yours?
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* The answer to these questions? The cities of Ḥamat-Rabah and Gath had been sacked and deserted by the time of Amos's oracle. Clearly, this is a rhetorical irony.
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3. "Yet you put off the Day of Evil, and convene a session of corrupt violence!
4. "Those who recline on ivory beds and lounge on their couches, gorging themselves on lambs from the flock and cattle from the stalls!
5. "Those who ignorantly improvise the sound of a tune—as if like David they account themselves to be instruments of song!
6. "Those who drink from craters of wine, and lather themselves with the finest oil—yet are not sickened by the destruction of Joseph!
7. "Assuredly, right soon they shall be the first of those to be banished in exile; no longer shall they lounge in excess!"
The message here is quite literally the exact opposite of the point Duplantes was attempting to make.
If there was ever any doubt that these tyrants hear only what they want, this should just about settle it.
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"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
I should show that video to my employer asking them to provide me with a private jet due to the "state of the airlines these days".
I sure don't want to be on a business trip in a tube full of demons.
Ha ha. For sure. You should at least get danger pay.
My favourite part is when that one kook comes out and says that Oral Roberts needed a private plane because he was agitated by his own followers asking him to pray with them. Truly a man of God, and the people.
Jesus was/is a fictional character, it's a delusion to think otherwise.
There are zero writings from an eyewitness, all we have on this dude is biased descriptions of his life events from non-witnesses 100's of years later.
Jesus is the biggest con job in history...worth $billions
I believe historians are actually kind of leaning on him being real. That's not to say he actually was a son of a deity, just that the guy existed. Although I'm hardly an expert on this. But people who kind of are have told me and I believe them.
I believe historians are actually kind of leaning on him being real. That's not to say he actually was a son of a deity, just that the guy existed. Although I'm hardly an expert on this. But people who kind of are have told me and I believe them.
Not that it matters for modern Christianity.
Hang about, I could get behind a fella that managed to make people believe he was a god (or son of god) and create a cult that is still in existence a couple of thousand years later.
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Jesus was/is a fictional character, it's a delusion to think otherwise.
There are zero writings from an eyewitness, all we have on this dude is biased descriptions of his life events from non-witnesses 100's of years later.
Jesus is the biggest con job in history...worth $billions
The Gospel of John was written by the Apostle John, who was an eye-witness.
Furthermore, many historians agree the man Jesus existed, although his divinity is questionable.
I believe historians are actually kind of leaning on him being real. That's not to say he actually was a son of a deity, just that the guy existed. Although I'm hardly an expert on this. But people who kind of are have told me and I believe them.
Not that it matters for modern Christianity.
There's also a large group of historians and scholars who point out Jesus most likely was born of the story's of demigods or popular politicians from different countries who were executed threw crucifixion.
Christianity was born out of Pagan and mythical beliefs so even if a man named Jesus in Nazareth did exist he would have been insignificant to Christianity and the gospels. The entire new testament really has little to zero historical value either.
Any of these "historians" you speak of that lean to him being real have an underlining reason for it....money!
There's also a large group of historians and scholars who point out Jesus most likely was born of the story's of demigods or popular politicians from different countries who were executed threw crucifixion.
Christianity was born out of Pagan and mythical beliefs so even if a man named Jesus in Nazareth did exist he would have been insignificant to Christianity and the gospels. The entire new testament really has little to zero historical value either.
Any of these "historians" you speak of that lean to him being real have an underlining reason for it....money!
Heh, academics, sure, what a moneymaking gig that is
Seriously, these are good academics I know personally, who study or have studied this period. Yeah, obviously the legend of Christ is mostly a collection of older stories recycled, but still.
History of Christian faith and it's changes over time are hardly my expertise so I'm not going to start on that. (Especially when I think it's clear it isn't yours either.)
There's also a large group of historians and scholars who point out Jesus most likely was born of the story's of demigods or popular politicians from different countries who were executed threw crucifixion.
NO! There most certainly is not!
There are Richard Carrier and Robert Price, both of whom are marginal scholars with massive chips on their shoulders and axes to grind. The vast majority of scholars who work in the field of middle eastern antiquities are very comfortable with various reconstructions of the historical Jesus by Albert Schweitzer, et al. Virtually none of them find a single element of the mythicist theory even remotely convincing or altogether plausible.
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Christianity was born out of Pagan and mythical beliefs so even if a man named Jesus in Nazareth did exist he would have been insignificant to Christianity and the gospels. The entire new testament really has little to zero historical value either.
As usual, on both counts you are wrong. And you continue to spout these blatant falsehoods no matter how often I debunk them.
First, while there are elements of pagan ritual and ideology embedded within Christianity, it is thoroughly a Hellenised Jewish religion. Second, the very substance of Christianity is grounded on a belief in the historical existence of Jesus of Nazareth. Were there no Jesus, there would almost certainly be no Christianity. Third, while the historical value of the NT is limited, it is a gross exaggeration to say that it contains no historical value. The NT for all its flaws remains the best available source for the life of Jesus and the emergence Christianity. But even beyond that, the NT is invaluable as an historical source for early Judaism, and for Roman rule in Palestine during the first century C.E.
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Any of these "historians" you speak of that lean to him being real have an underlining reason for it....money!
Yes. That "underlying reason" would be a primary commitment to historical plausibility, and the vast majority of them are not lining their pockets from booksellers and appearances in film documentaries. They are academics. Which means than most are badly overworked, and severely underpaid.
On all counts, the existence of Jesus is eminently plausible, and it remains the best explanation for the emergence of Christianity in the first century C.E.
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