I would keep Tkachuk, Lindholm, Bennett, Hathaway, Hamonic, Valimaki, and Rittich.
The rest can go.
Time for another rebuild with a new GM.
Yup, I agree. We've finally got a good team together, we need to avoid tinkering and just trade all of our good players for picks and go for the cup in 2024.
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No sense keeping players that are no shows in the playoffs.
This isn't the first time and it probably won't be the last.
Except it is the first time for Monahan (though not the first playoff no show for Johnny who did make your list.)
Monahan has previously been our best player in a playoff series. His first playoffs (2nd season, he was only 20) he put up 6 points through 11 games. 2nd playoffs he put up 5 points, 4 goals, in 4 games.
He was not good this time around, I dont think that deserves the lynching hes getting. I think many people were just waiting for one thing to go wrong with him to bring out the "not a first line centre" bull#### they kept trying to drive home all last year. He shut many of them up with his regular season play but here they come out of the woodwork again!
Monahan needs to get faster and meaner, no doubt. The flames are a much worse team without him though. It would be so incredibly stupid to ditch him now.
Brodie is a player who consistently underperforms in high pressure situations, and has his entire career. Unfortunately gaudreau is also trending that way. Keep Johnny but trade brodie for whatever you can get. Biggest get (been saying it since last summer) is one more offensive centre. Backlund is a great player, but should be centering a shutdown third line so we can have tkachuk+new offensive center as a legitamate 2nd driving offense line. That will take immense pressure off of Monahan-gaudreau. Bennett was supposed to be exactly that but his failure to develop has been the single most detrimental thing that has happened to this club. He played well in the playoffs, but we need him to be a consistent threat. Terrible value for a 5th overall pick. There are quite a few players in that round that would have us further ahead.
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Except it is the first time for Monahan (though not the first playoff no show for Johnny who did make your list.)
Monahan has previously been our best player in a playoff series. His first playoffs (2nd season, he was only 20) he put up 6 points through 11 games. 2nd playoffs he put up 5 points, 4 goals, in 4 games.
He was not good this time around, I dont think that deserves the lynching hes getting. I think many people were just waiting for one thing to go wrong with him to bring out the "not a first line centre" bull#### they kept trying to drive home all last year. He shut many of them up with his regular season play but here they come out of the woodwork again!
Monahan needs to get faster and meaner, no doubt. The flames are a much worse team without him though. It would be so incredibly stupid to ditch him now.
Brodie is a player who consistently underperforms in high pressure situations, and has his entire career. Unfortunately gaudreau is also trending that way. Keep Johnny but trade brodie for whatever you can get. Biggest get (been saying it since last summer) is one more offensive centre. Backlund is a great player, but should be centering a shutdown third line so we can have tkachuk+new offensive center as a legitamate 2nd driving offense line. That will take immense pressure off of Monahan-gaudreau. Bennett was supposed to be exactly that but his failure to develop has been the single most detrimental thing that has happened to this club. He played well in the playoffs, but we need him to be a consistent threat. Terrible value for a 5th overall pick. There are quite a few players in that round that would have us further ahead.
Gaudreau did not make my list. I agree about getting another offensive centre with size, speed, and skill. You could trade anyone not on my list to get one.
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You are joking right? Marner is a franchise player in the making. They are not remotely close talent wise.
LOL...what? I think you need to watch Point a whole lot more if that is an actual belief.
Marner is a terrific player and can play on my team anytime, but Brayden Point is as good offensively, better defensively, and plays C....he is a much more valuable piece than Marner, because he is more complete player.
I will take a 90 pt C over a 90 pt winger every day of the week.
Back to the topic sort of...i dont think there will be any significant offer sheets this summer.
Its just to cost prohibitive for the top end guys. Just to get someone to agree to one, the money has to be huge, they have to either want to leave where they are or know their current franchise cant pay them anywhere close to the offer and think they will be traded, plus you give up a boat load of draft picks. Just far to expensive and risky IMO.
I know several of the talking heads aren't so sure, but history kind of indicates what we should expect.
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Point has ridiculous hands and is a pure sniper. He is arguably as dynamic as Gaudreau & Marner, and harder to get off the puck. And his shot is better than both of theirs.
You are joking right? Marner is a franchise player in the making. They are not remotely close talent wise.
Are you joking? You do realize Point emerged as the 1st line center for the best team in the league and scored 40+goals and 90+points. They are very comparable players and Point plays center.
Problem with competing with the florida teams for contracts is the low taxes there. And the weather. An 8M offer from Tampa would be like a 9.5M offer from Calgary.
Problem with competing with the florida teams for contracts is the low taxes there. And the weather. An 8M offer from Tampa would be like a 9.5M offer from Calgary.
And the fact they don't try and run you out of town if you have a bad week...You think the average Joe in Tampa is calling for players heads and calling them pussies and wimps after their debacle...which was worse
Are you joking? You do realize Point emerged as the 1st line center for the best team in the league and scored 40+goals and 90+points. They are very comparable players and Point plays center.
You do realize Point was bumped up early to play with Kucherov and Stamkos right? Michael Backlund is a 90 point C between those two guys. Anybody who has a lick of hockey knowledge should be able to tell that positions aside Marner is the superior player in almost every facet.
