2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Perhaps there's some nuance between players getting traded because it's an easier call (asked out, expiring contract) and players that should be (higher value, will not be part of any eventual contending window)

Ya think maybe? Maybe. I dunno just asking questions here

I think the nuance works against what you’re implying.

Not part of a contending window? Literally every player on the roster over 20.
Higher value? Pure supposition. Facts don’t support it. Term or not changes who are buyers, not what they pay.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Have any evidence of that?

Oilers got young stars, built a new arena, and then their revenue and organizational worth skyrocketed.

Flames have an opportunity to do the same thing here.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...rs-since-2006/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...es-since-2006/

Looks pretty close before McDavid to me, according to this from 06/07 to 14/15 the Flames had higher operating revenue in every season...wonder what changed after 2015

So much for that "News Flash"

100 this!


I remember around the McDavid draft, there was a valuation that popped-up somewhere (and for the life of me, I can't remember where it came from) that valued McDavid at roughly 1 billion dollars to his organization.


I also look at 'growing your fanbase'. I can't stand the Oilers, and I find them to be a rather despicable organization on top of my own personal feelings. However, in the last 10 seasons, which organization has grown their fanbase? "Most exciting" player in the NHL + 2 finals appearances? I bet that Calgary grew their fanbase a little from the 2015 season and probably to the 2018 season - Johnny Hockey. However, the Flames have done little to grow their product. In the last three seasons, I would be very surprised if the fanbase hasn't shrunk.


The new building will definitely bring more profitability to the organization. Drafting a couple of wonder-kids, and having legitimate playoff success will really help. I had said this a few seasons ago: If I was not a fan of this team already, Calgary would be one of the last organizations for me to pick and become a fan of.


This rebuild may 'suck', but long-term, it will create excitement and generate a bunch of new fans. Even young kids in Calgary - when they are playing street-hockey, and pretending to be a star, who are they pretending to be? Few if any Flames I bet. I remember being Nieuwendyk, or Loob, or MacInnis. Not so long ago I am sure there were lots pretending to be Gaudreau. Now I bet a lot of them are picking other stars from different teams.


This is the breath of fresh air that this organization needs - financially, as well as drawing in a new generation of fans in the coming years.

[redmile04]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

This really shows how much work the rebuild still has to do

We don’t have a great young new core yet , while we also don’t have an older but entering /in their prime established core that will be with the team as the young guys are ready

This isn’t a one year at the bottom scenario to have any chance at building a proper team

That is why it is so important to get assets for Kadri, Andersson and Coleman. Not just a top 5 pick..

[ComixZone]

Mintyukov for Pachal + Zary?

Am I drastically underrating Mintyukov? He seems to have made an initial strong impression, and then has trailed off - not too dissimilar to Zary.

I don't see Andersson as wanting to re-sign in Anaheim if he was unwilling to do so in LA, and I can't see Anaheim looking at rentals.

[traptor]

Yeah it almost feels like we have to pick top 5 this season at this point or its a huge failure.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Mintyukov for Pachal + Zary?

Am I drastically underrating Mintyukov? He seems to have made an initial strong impression, and then has trailed off - not too dissimilar to Zary.

I don't see Andersson as wanting to re-sign in Anaheim if he was unwilling to do so in LA, and I can't see Anaheim looking at rentals.

I think he gets more but not alot more.


Honzek + Pachal would be a bit more inline given age.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Looking at the moves since Conroy came in, the one trade I really don't like is Frost and Farabee, which was obviously intended to shortcut a rebuild. Others at the very least seem to be trading vets for futures, which is the correct direction. Perhaps we can still extract value out of Frost and Farabee, with Farabee on a hot streak.

Frost has been underwhelming for the most part.
Farabee though I think will have some value going forward. And is still quite young.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by traptor

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/article/canad...straight-year/

Just a subjective talking piece.

Flames rank #20 with their core-4 U24. This is down from #16 last season, I assume with the graduation of Wolf.

Top 5:
Habs
Hawks
Sharks
Ducks
Mammoth


Bottom 5:
Oilers
Avalanche
Lightning
Panthers
Knights

That sounds about right, with Wolf graduating.

Always debatable, but my guess on the 'core 4' would be:

Parekh
Coronato
then maybe: Reschny, Gridin, or sub in one of Honzek, Brzustewicz or Potter

The Flames' strength in their prospect base is with depth, not with the top end, so the ranking, if based on only 4 players, makes sense.

Over the next two years, we'll have 2 top picks to go along with Parekh, while some of the currently high ranked teams will have graduates. At that time, we'll move into the upper echelon, but not before then.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by dino7c

When it doesnt include Wolf its not very accurate

It’s an under 24 years old ranking . Why would it include a player who is 24?

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

The roster actually got younger with that trade, and got rid of a surplus winger to acquire a desperately needed centre. That's not short-cutting a rebuild, that's recognizing that even during a rebuild you have to ice four forward lines.

I think perhaps Conroy thought Frost and Farabee would blossom with a change of scenery and the trade would look like a steal but I don't think it has really turned out that way.

Trade feels a bit Jim Benning-pilled, with the Flames giving up draft capital for middle of the roster 25 year olds when they shouldn't be.

[Enoch Root]

or, I could have just looked at who they included, LOL

[The EBUG's EBUG]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

So you're basing everything on words and totally ignoring actions.



So anybody who disagrees with you about the value of a playoff race is intellectually dishonest? Good to know. I was not previously aware that the definition of intellectual honesty was ‘agrees exactly with the priorities of The EBUG's EBUG’.



So what?



They took a calculated risk that nobody would take Kuzmenko off waivers. They were absolutely right about that. How is that a problem with the process?



I watched hockey all through the dead puck era. I even saw expansion teams play in the 1970s. I have seen far worse hockey than this. You may want to trim about ten miles off the top of that hyperbole.



Half measures compared to what? Show me an organization that's done a more thorough teardown than the Flames have since Conroy became GM.



Because it takes two to make a trade.



Because, as I keep pointing out, actions speak louder than words, and NONE of their actions since Conroy became GM have been in the direction of avoiding a rebuild.



Maloney actually did use the word ‘rebuild’. He knows the score. The fact that there is some organizational taboo against using the word means absolutely nothing.

Goodness man, if you think that this is as good a job as this organization can possibly be doing to turn this thing around and that there are no other steps they could be taking to accumulate assets and improve draft positioning then I don't know what to tell ya but I'm sure they're glad to have you as a fan.

Miss me with that intellectually dishonest comment, I don't think it should be controversial to have wanted Conroy and that group to have looked at that playoff race and made moves that prioritized the future rather than a shot at sneaking in.

Kuznetsov was on waivers but sure, I guess if that's how you want to run your team then thank god we kept Miromanov around, masterful gambit.

My apologies, I'll keep it in mind not to be so hyperbolic with my hyperbole on here.

I'm sure people are over this discussion. I'll leave it at that.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Frost has been underwhelming for the most part.
Farabee though I think will have some value going forward. And is still quite young.

Frost has been better of late to be fair - I have been critical of him as well. Farabee has been much better this season than last (though he wasn't terrible last season either). Nice to see him finally getting rewarded by his strong play too.


However, I still think that they are both just placeholders for now, and that both of them will eventually be traded-out.

[Roof-Daddy]

Man, this thread seems to get about 500 posts per day of the same basic garbage regurgitated over and over.

Thank goodness Royle posts get a ton of thanks so I don't end up scrolling past them.

[The EBUG's EBUG]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Man, this thread seems to get about 500 posts per day of the same basic garbage regurgitated over and over.

Thank goodness Royle posts get a ton of thanks so I don't end up scrolling past them.

Yea my bad, got into the weeds there. Hand up accountability there haha

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by The EBUG's EBUG

Goodness man, if you think that this is as good a job as this organization can possibly be doing to turn this thing around and that there are no other steps they could be taking to accumulate assets and improve draft positioning then I don't know what to tell ya but I'm sure they're glad to have you as a fan.

Again, show me a team that has done more in a similar span of time.

Miss me with that intellectually dishonest comment, I don't think it should be controversial to have wanted Conroy and that group to have looked at that playoff race and made moves that prioritized the future rather than a shot at sneaking in.

That's because you don't think it makes any difference to a player's development to be playing meaningful hockey in March and April as opposed to playing out the string for six weeks. I have never heard a single expert on the game agree with that idea.

Kuznetsov was on waivers but sure, I guess if that's how you want to run your team then thank god we kept Miromanov around, masterful gambit.

That's what you're criticizing here? That they didn't waive Miromanov in October? My goodness, what incredible ineptitude! Why, no team has ever done such a thing before!

[The EBUG's EBUG]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Again, show me a team that has done more in a similar span of time.



That's because you don't think it makes any difference to a player's development to be playing meaningful hockey in March and April as opposed to playing out the string for six weeks. I have never heard a single expert on the game agree with that idea.



That's what you're criticizing here? That they didn't waive Miromanov in October? My goodness, what incredible ineptitude! Why, no team has ever done such a thing before!

Lol have a good Friday pal.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

It’s an under 24 years old ranking . Why would it include a player who is 24?

I get it but its an arbitrary number...Wolf is a massive part of the teams young core are future. You said it shows how much work they have to do...sure but when they omit your best young player in his second NHL seasons its kinda irrelevant.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by The EBUG's EBUG

Lol have a good Friday pal.

My Friday might be better than yours, since I'm not wasting my energy hating the Flames' management.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

My Friday might be better than yours, since I'm not wasting my energy hating the Flames' management.

Plus your username isn’t as weird.

Two spaces, an apostrophe, and like 9 capital letters?

Calm down already nerd we get it.