04-03-2024, 08:36 PM
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#13601
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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1 member and 1410 guests. Cool, cool.
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From HFBoard oiler fan, in analyzing MacT's management:
O.K. there has been a lot of talk on whether or not MacTavish has actually done a good job for us, most fans on this board are very basic in their analysis and I feel would change their opinion entirely if the team was successful.
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04-03-2024, 10:38 PM
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#13602
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Franchise Player
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1703 guests right now. is that a record?
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Peter12 "I'm no Trump fan but he is smarter than most if not everyone in this thread. ”
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04-03-2024, 10:39 PM
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#13603
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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7:40am in Moscow, makes sense
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04-03-2024, 10:40 PM
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#13604
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Franchise Player
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boom 1747 now!
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Peter12 "I'm no Trump fan but he is smarter than most if not everyone in this thread. ”
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04-03-2024, 11:13 PM
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#13605
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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I have noticed the high # of guests viewing the thread at times too and I figured it was just because it was high interest and maybe was popular in some searches...
But I did a bit of digging in the logs and I'm starting to think it's some kind of bot scraping this specific thread.
First I just did a quick search in the logs to find out the top IP addresses making requests to the forum and there's 2 that are far and away more than any other IP. Way more than web crawlers. Both IPs are located in Hong Kong and are owned by Alibaba Cloud HK (a cloud provider).
So I looked at the requests, and they all look like this from the logs:
Code:
x.x.x.x - - [31/Mar/2024:04:27:39 -0400] "HEAD /printthread.php?page=160&pp=20&t=186835 HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/78.0.2813.123 Safari/537.36"
x.x.x.x - - [31/Mar/2024:04:27:39 -0400] "GET /printthread.php?page=160&pp=20&t=186835 HTTP/1.1" 200 6648 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/78.0.2813.123 Safari/537.36
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printthread.php is to view a thread without all the extra forum formatting, all the printthread log entries I checked (not exhaustive by any means granted) were from these IPs and for this one thread.
t=18835 is this thread
The page numbers are all over the place (and I'm not sure what s= is).
So it looks like some software is setup to scrape this thread constantly. From Hong Kong. ALL the time. WHY?!
Part of me just wants to block the IPs, but do I want to incur the wrath of state level hackers lol.
So weird.
Anyway, going to bed, try not to start an international incident.
EDIT: Hm the s= part doesn't show up for some reason, it looks like /printthread.php?page=4&pp=60& s = 665789674a3a3a21e6bab0fd43ffa1ec &t=186835
It might just be a random salt to prevent the forum software from caching the requests.
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But certainty is an absurd one.
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04-03-2024, 11:37 PM
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#13606
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Maybe the bots owners would enjoy my favourite picture of Putin
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04-03-2024, 11:48 PM
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#13607
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Time for the great firewall around China
Last edited by BloodFetish; 04-04-2024 at 12:01 AM.
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04-04-2024, 06:07 AM
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#13608
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
I have noticed the high # of guests viewing the thread at times too and I figured it was just because it was high interest and maybe was popular in some searches...
But I did a bit of digging in the logs and I'm starting to think it's some kind of bot scraping this specific thread.
First I just did a quick search in the logs to find out the top IP addresses making requests to the forum and there's 2 that are far and away more than any other IP. Way more than web crawlers. Both IPs are located in Hong Kong and are owned by Alibaba Cloud HK (a cloud provider).
So I looked at the requests, and they all look like this from the logs:
Code:
x.x.x.x - - [31/Mar/2024:04:27:39 -0400] "HEAD /printthread.php?page=160&pp=20&t=186835 HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/78.0.2813.123 Safari/537.36"
x.x.x.x - - [31/Mar/2024:04:27:39 -0400] "GET /printthread.php?page=160&pp=20&t=186835 HTTP/1.1" 200 6648 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/78.0.2813.123 Safari/537.36
"
printthread.php is to view a thread without all the extra forum formatting, all the printthread log entries I checked (not exhaustive by any means granted) were from these IPs and for this one thread.
t=18835 is this thread
The page numbers are all over the place (and I'm not sure what s= is).
So it looks like some software is setup to scrape this thread constantly. From Hong Kong. ALL the time. WHY?!
Part of me just wants to block the IPs, but do I want to incur the wrath of state level hackers lol.
So weird.
Anyway, going to bed, try not to start an international incident.
EDIT: Hm the s= part doesn't show up for some reason, it looks like /printthread.php?page=4&pp=60& s = 665789674a3a3a21e6bab0fd43ffa1ec &t=186835
It might just be a random salt to prevent the forum software from caching the requests.
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So Russia (or China I guess, but more likely Russia using a cloud service from HK) is keeping tabs with what is said about the war on social media. This forum is social media, and an easy one to keep up with because it's one static thread.
So let's speculate?
What can you do with information like that? Use it as to create propaganda directed at the West. Some ways include for example identifying things people worry about ans trying to amplify those worries. You can use it to identify common divisions of opinion and try to for example stir that into a fight in the West (turning differences in opinion into groups that hate each other). Just in general, you can use, in theory at least, information from threads like this to create propaganda that supports an opinion that's favorable to Russian interests.
They can also use metrics from threads like this all around the net to measure Western engagement with the war. Less people reading and posting -> less interest in the war -> less likely that the West will keep supporting Ukraine.
....it's so great how the internet has become such a good example of a scifi dystopia.
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04-04-2024, 06:12 AM
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#13609
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Or you know, maybe it's a Hong Kong based private company that scrapes the net for information on the war that it will then sell to any intelligence service.
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04-04-2024, 07:47 AM
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#13611
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
I have noticed the high # of guests viewing the thread at times too and I figured it was just because it was high interest and maybe was popular in some searches...
But I did a bit of digging in the logs and I'm starting to think it's some kind of bot scraping this specific thread.
First I just did a quick search in the logs to find out the top IP addresses making requests to the forum and there's 2 that are far and away more than any other IP. Way more than web crawlers. Both IPs are located in Hong Kong and are owned by Alibaba Cloud HK (a cloud provider).
So I looked at the requests, and they all look like this from the logs:
Code:
x.x.x.x - - [31/Mar/2024:04:27:39 -0400] "HEAD /printthread.php?page=160&pp=20&t=186835 HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/78.0.2813.123 Safari/537.36"
x.x.x.x - - [31/Mar/2024:04:27:39 -0400] "GET /printthread.php?page=160&pp=20&t=186835 HTTP/1.1" 200 6648 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/78.0.2813.123 Safari/537.36
"
printthread.php is to view a thread without all the extra forum formatting, all the printthread log entries I checked (not exhaustive by any means granted) were from these IPs and for this one thread.
t=18835 is this thread
The page numbers are all over the place (and I'm not sure what s= is).
So it looks like some software is setup to scrape this thread constantly. From Hong Kong. ALL the time. WHY?!
Part of me just wants to block the IPs, but do I want to incur the wrath of state level hackers lol.
So weird.
Anyway, going to bed, try not to start an international incident.
EDIT: Hm the s= part doesn't show up for some reason, it looks like /printthread.php?page=4&pp=60& s = 665789674a3a3a21e6bab0fd43ffa1ec &t=186835
It might just be a random salt to prevent the forum software from caching the requests.
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God help us all if they're using this site to train AI
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04-04-2024, 07:49 AM
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#13612
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse
Or you know, maybe it's a Hong Kong based private company that scrapes the net for information on the war that it will then sell to any intelligence service.
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Either way, CP had made the big leagues! I mean, what are the chances that a random hockey forum catches a foreign power's interest?
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04-04-2024, 08:01 AM
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#13613
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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We're all being tracked for future liquidation.
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04-04-2024, 08:37 AM
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#13614
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Waterloo, Ontario
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1412 Ruskie BOTs watching our every move!
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04-04-2024, 08:38 AM
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#13615
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
1412 Ruskie BOTs watching our every move!
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#### 'em
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04-04-2024, 08:43 AM
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#13616
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edslunch
Either way, CP had made the big leagues! I mean, what are the chances that a random hockey forum catches a foreign power's interest?
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They're spying on everyone, man.
Everyone.
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04-04-2024, 08:48 AM
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#13617
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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I guess you could pull an Elon and make the forum closed to outside eyes? Anything special about the pages they’re looking at? Common keywords or specific poster?
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04-04-2024, 09:03 AM
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#13618
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Posted the 6 millionth post!
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Hi Ruskies! Slava Ukraini!
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04-04-2024, 09:16 AM
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#13619
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Hey Bots, you're missing the good thread, hop into the gear grinder, that's where the best discussions are.
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