06-07-2018, 08:15 PM
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#13581
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Sorry but I disagree. Gaudreau carries his line and is the offensive catalyst. Tkachuk is a better passer and as you said has a very high IQ. Monahan is a very good shooter as I mentioned before and there’s something to be said for having a nose for the net but does anyone think he could center a couple of non elite wingers and elevate their level of play? He’s not that type of player.
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Tkachuk isnt a better passer. Monahan is just as good. There's not really any skill area in which Tkachuk beats Monahan. And his wrist shot accuracy is as good as anyone. He's not just very good. I bet in a skills competition he'd compete with the best.
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06-07-2018, 08:16 PM
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#13582
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Ha ha ha this thread has gone full Oiler fan with the homerism. I’m out.
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06-07-2018, 08:16 PM
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#13583
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Well is a 30 goal scorer elite? I don’t think so.
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When you consider he's young, getting better and scored at the clip he did this year despite the injury, I'd say yes. Especially his penchant for scoring game winning and overtime goals. He has one of the best releases in the league from within the slot. He's a deadly goal scorer who's only getting better.
Not really interested in trying to convince you the glass is half full when you see just about everything is half empty... but it is.
I think he's an elite goal scorer.
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06-07-2018, 08:17 PM
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#13584
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Ha ha ha this thread has gone full Oiler fan with the homerism. I’m out.
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I just can't figure calling Tkachuk elite and not Monahan based on skills. If Tkachuk is so is Monahan. Or they both are not.
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06-07-2018, 08:19 PM
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#13585
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Ha ha ha this thread has gone full Oiler fan with the homerism. I’m out.
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How so? In a league starved for goals Monahan has scored 138 goals by the age of 23. That is pretty damn impressive.
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06-07-2018, 08:19 PM
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#13586
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#1 Goaltender
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Gallagher has always been a player I've wanted on the Flames. Has similar intangibles as Tkachuk. Skates hard and has a good shot and is a hound on the puck. He is on a good contract too.
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06-07-2018, 08:19 PM
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#13587
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Sorry but I disagree. Gaudreau carries his line and is the offensive catalyst. Tkachuk is a better passer and as you said has a very high IQ. Monahan is a very good shooter as I mentioned before and there’s something to be said for having a nose for the net but does anyone think he could center a couple of non elite wingers and elevate their level of play? He’s not that type of player.
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A Gaudreau-less Monahan is consistently more productive than a Monahan-less Gaudreau. I don’t think Monahan necessarily carries that line, but he is at least as important to the top line as is Gaudreau.
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06-07-2018, 08:21 PM
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#13588
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Ha ha ha this thread has gone full Oiler fan with the homerism...
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This is totally uncalled for.
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06-07-2018, 08:21 PM
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#13589
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
A Gaudreau-less Monahan is consistently more productive than a Monahan-less Gaudreau. I don’t think Monahan necessarily carries that line, but he is at least as important to the top line as is Gaudreau.
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He's also the best defensively among him, Gaudreau and any right winger he's been given.
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06-07-2018, 08:22 PM
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#13590
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
This is totally uncalled for.
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He's out!
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06-07-2018, 08:25 PM
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#13591
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
This is totally uncalled for.
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Like you saying my opinion is nonsense because you disagree? Look in the mirror.
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06-07-2018, 08:26 PM
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#13592
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Franchise Player
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The past few seasons I've been pretty down on the Flames in general, including Monahan at times. But it's time to give the man his due. Quietly, boringly (perhaps too boring for some) goes about his business and consistently scores, every season. Plays through several injuries last year with nary a complaint. I'll defend him all day
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06-07-2018, 08:27 PM
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#13593
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Lifetime Suspension
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I'm glad you didn't leave. I think we're just about at the point where you tell everyone how cutting edge your are because we just can't handle how real your negativity is.
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06-07-2018, 08:27 PM
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#13594
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Like you saying my opinion is nonsense because you disagree? Look in the mirror.
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Hey, I thought you were out!
You said "I'm out!"
Just when you thought you were out, they pulled you back in?
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06-07-2018, 08:28 PM
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#13595
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
This is totally uncalled for.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Machiavelli
The past few seasons I've been pretty down on the Flames in general, including Monahan at times. But it's time to give the man his due. Quietly, boringly (perhaps too boring for some) goes about his business and consistently scores, every season. Plays through several injuries last year with nary a complaint. I'll defend him all day
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Yep. Good player. I can say I was one of the posters here that didn’t pile on at the end of the season when Francis and some posters here were calling guys like Monahan and Gaudreau out.
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06-07-2018, 08:31 PM
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#13596
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Like you saying my opinion is nonsense because you disagree? Look in the mirror.
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I’m not the one calling other posters Oilers fan-level homers. Your double standard applied between Monahan and Tkachuk is nonsensical.
Last edited by Textcritic; 06-07-2018 at 08:34 PM.
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06-07-2018, 08:31 PM
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#13597
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Franchise Player
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I don't know how anyone could have watched Monahan handle the puck almost visibly in pain and think he was just dogging it.
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06-07-2018, 08:33 PM
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#13598
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
Hey, I thought you were out!
You said "I'm out!"
Just when you thought you were out, they pulled you back in?
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06-07-2018, 08:34 PM
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#13599
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Machiavelli
I don't know how anyone could have watched Monahan handle the puck almost visibly in pain and think he was just dogging it.
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Real winner would have replaced the hand with a cybernetic appendage.
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06-07-2018, 08:37 PM
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#13600
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
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Yeah, that's the one. Except I would have chosen a gif that didn't make it look like he's aggressively milking a cow.
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