06-14-2016, 11:56 AM
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#1341
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Stay Golden
Gulutzan as HC is Greg Gilbert 2.0
Todd Reirdon at least shows promise and has some accomplished credibility. Gulutzan failed in Dallas and the Canucks are not a success story in the last 3 years. Gulutzan is a warm body hire I sure hope that he is not the choice.
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You've just been on a roll lately.
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The Oilers won't finish 14th in the West forever.
Eventually a couple of expansion teams will be added which will nestle the Oilers into 16th.
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06-14-2016, 01:22 PM
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#1342
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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More Dreger:
Chris Nichols – @NicholsOnHockey
Dreger: I believe that Gulutzan at least is a front-runner, and Todd Rierden is in the mix. Randy Carlyle was
Chris Nichols
Chris Nichols – @NicholsOnHockey
Dreger: "Most that I've talked to, including some within the organization, believe it'll be Gulutzan." #Flames 1040
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06-14-2016, 01:29 PM
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#1343
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#1 Goaltender
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I don't think Gulutzan is the right guy to lead this team forward at all. If this happens and he fails it's going to be bad for Treliving. Is there something going on with the Flames we don't know about? All the high profile established coaches signed elsewhere.
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06-14-2016, 01:29 PM
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#1344
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Franchise Player
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It's a little irritating that the scoop on the Flames coaching job is given to some Vancouver schlubs and not our local media.
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Originally Posted by JobHopper
The thing is, my posts, thoughts and insights may be my opinions but they're also quite factual.
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06-14-2016, 01:30 PM
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#1345
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Hahaha! WHAT??!!
Greg Gilbert:
· 1996–2000 AHL: 0.537 winning percentage in four full seasons, with his highest (0.625) occurring in his first year as a professional coach.
· 2000–03 NHL: 0.442 winning percentage in less than two full seasons after which he was ignobly dismissed, and has never again coached in the NHL.
Greg Gulutzen:
· 2009–11 AHL: 0.597 winning percentage in two seasons.
2011–13 NHL: 0.527 winning percentage in two seasons—one of which was lockout shortened.
We do not yet have a good read on Gulutzen's quality as a NHL coach, but to compare him to Gilbert is preposterous. He is demonstrably a MUCH better coach, and it is not even close.
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I hope Gulutzen turns out to be great but that analysis is thin.
I think it's fair to be underwhelmed by his track record but clearly if he's the guy, he's not being hired based on the winning percentages of teams he has coached.
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06-14-2016, 01:32 PM
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#1346
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Montreal
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We wont owe any compensation to VAN will we?
That concept has been ended has it not?
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06-14-2016, 01:33 PM
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#1347
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan
I don't think Gulutzan is the right guy to lead this team forward at all. If this happens and he fails it's going to be bad for Treliving. Is there something going on with the Flames we don't know about? All the high profile established coaches signed elsewhere.
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Your 2nd sentence is true no matter who we hire.
It's interesting that the Penguins won two Cups with in season coaching changes. They do seem to yield results. Presumably Treliving felt better about the candidates available now than the fat more limited pool during the season.
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06-14-2016, 01:33 PM
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#1348
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Menace
We wont owe any compensation to VAN will we?
That concept has been ended has it not?
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No the Flames won't owe them anything. They dropped that silly rule this past off season.
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06-14-2016, 01:37 PM
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#1349
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Once I heard the Flames were going off the board I was ready to be underwhelmed. I trust Treliving and this is a huge hire for him. I have no doubt all the background work was done and they feel this is the guy.
My only beef is how horrible the Canucks have been since AV left and how badly the Flames out coached the Canucks in the playoffs last year.
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06-14-2016, 01:38 PM
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#1350
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Menace
We wont owe any compensation to VAN will we?
That concept has been ended has it not?
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We don't but,out of the goodness of our hearts, we can give them Raymond.
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06-14-2016, 01:39 PM
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#1351
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saillias
It's a little irritating that the scoop on the Flames coaching job is given to some Vancouver schlubs and not our local media.
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Which suggests the leak isnt coming from the Flames end.
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06-14-2016, 01:39 PM
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#1352
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csnarpy
We don't but,out of the goodness of our hearts, we can give them Raymond.
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And to return the favor Benning will kick in a 2017 2nd rounder
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06-14-2016, 01:41 PM
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#1353
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by killer_carlson
Which suggests the leak isnt coming from the Flames end.
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True. Gulutzan maybe has some loose lips.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JobHopper
The thing is, my posts, thoughts and insights may be my opinions but they're also quite factual.
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06-14-2016, 01:42 PM
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#1354
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Golden
Gulutzan as HC is Greg Gilbert 2.0
Todd Reirdon at least shows promise and has some accomplished credibility. Gulutzan failed in Dallas and the Canucks are not a success story in the last 3 years. Gulutzan is a warm body hire I sure hope that he is not the choice.
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Impossible. No coach in the history of coaching in the past, present, or future can match the pure level of crappiness that Gilbert is. Just not possible.
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06-14-2016, 01:43 PM
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#1355
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Lifetime Suspension
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Just bring in both.
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06-14-2016, 01:57 PM
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#1356
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
Just bring in both.
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Both would likely want to keep their assistant coach roles over ours. Especially Reirden, playing under Trotz and a good team.
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06-14-2016, 02:22 PM
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#1357
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Burmis Tree
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Assistant coaches typically have little input on how a head coach determines to operate a team. Gulutzan was assigned tasks by Desjardins but far to many of you are putting too much blame on the Canucks record on his assistants. It Willies ship.
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06-14-2016, 02:23 PM
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#1358
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan
I don't think Gulutzan is the right guy to lead this team forward at all. If this happens and he fails it's going to be bad for Treliving. Is there something going on with the Flames we don't know about? All the high profile established coaches signed elsewhere.
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Yes. The Flames WEREN'T looking fora a "high profile established" coach.
Simple.
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06-14-2016, 02:25 PM
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#1359
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saillias
It's a little irritating that the scoop on the Flames coaching job is given to some Vancouver schlubs and not our local media.
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Kind of par for the course when two of the Flames longtime beat writers are laid off.
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06-14-2016, 02:27 PM
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#1360
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Menace
We wont owe any compensation to VAN will we?
That concept has been ended has it not?
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The Canucks are likely very happy that it's Gulutzan is the man the Flames are taking and not Green who will likely be the next Canucks head coach and won't push their luck.
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