Justin Trudeau says marijuana should be legalized

[zamler]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I'm actually terribly curious as to what peter12 considers "fun."

Be careful what you ask for.

[rubecube]

What I really want to know is if Peter is the type of person who of refers to fun outings as "a hoot."

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

This became about heroin when the last chart showed a decline in prescription painkillers issued by doctors in weed-legal states. If those numbers are legit, this will also lead to a decline in heroin addiction. Because heroin addicts don't generally start out on street level smack. They start out on Vicodin, Percocet, Oxys, whatever their doctor gave them for their tennis elbow.

So it's not 'swapping one poison for another'. Your words. Nobody trades a weed problem for a heroin one. Nobody.

Your assumption is likely incorrect. Increased medical Marijuana leading to less prescribed opiate medication is not a safe starting point to assume less heroine use. The vast, vast majority of heroine users do not start out as legitimate chronic pain patients

[Aleks]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Your assumption is likely incorrect. Increased medical Marijuana leading to less prescribed opiate medication is not a safe starting point to assume less heroine use. The vast, vast majority of heroine users do not start out as legitimate chronic pain patients

You're not wrong, but a large facet of them do.....

But lets clear a couple things up for local sake. I've been in prehospital care for a long time here, I'm not going to date myself. I can count on 1 hand the number of "heroin" overdoses I've attended to. I also cannot recall the sheer number of prescription narcotic overdoses I've attended to, and then on top of that the most recent participant Fentanyl.

I've encountered countless people that couldn't kick opiates after injuries, and I've encountered countless people that just saw opiates as the next step, or countless people that relied on opiates to balance out their stimulant (crack, cocaine, meth) highs and had no interest in the drug otherwise.

I've never once in my career had any one single person having any sort of issues with marijuana use. Again, countless with Alcohol, ANY prescription drug overdose intentional or otherwise, cocaine and variants, heroin/morphine (they are the same thing), codeine in any form and mixed with any drug.

There are a ton of different lines being towed in here, illegal use, legal use, prescription, non prescription, etc. I know from seeing it, from knowing people, colleagues, etc, that there are many successful uses for medicinal marijuana from pain, to anxiety, to PTSD, to sleep aid, etc. I've observed it, I can't dispute what I see with my own eyes. I'm puzzled how those so staunchly against it remain so just because of its title of an illegal drug.

[Street Pharmacist]

I'll establish my position more clearly. The data posted earlier on changes in prescribing habits suggest some improvement. Marijuana is safe relative to most drugs we consume and valuable in medicine. There's no compelling reason to continue to put resources into criminalizing it even if you don't hold that opinion.

I was simply disputing the statement that lower opiate prescribing doesn't necessarily mean an improvement in heroin use

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

If the typical physician is prescribing 182,600 doses of painkiller per year, then yes it was a 1% drop.

Just to put some quantitative context here, one pain patient a normal opiate regimen looks like this:

Hydromorphone 9mg Slow Release twice daily, with hydromorphone 2mg 1-2 tablets every 6 hours as needed for breakthrough pain

That's 3600 doses per year for one patient



Edit: And prescribing habits vary wildly from state to state so I'm not sure this data really tells us much. It suggests something, but it doesn't do much not than that

[peter12]

The last time I had fun was when I drank a whole bottle of night-time cough syrup.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Based on his protestations, gay sex and illicit drug use.

It's the danger that gets me going.

[peter12]

I was at Wreck Beach today and some gomers were playing Pokemon Go, which was - on the whole - not super smart. An old naked guy grabbed one of their phones and threw it in the sand. That was pretty fun to watch.

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by peter12

I was at Wreck Beach today and some gomers were playing Pokemon Go, which was - on the whole - not super smart. An old naked guy grabbed one of their phones and threw it in the sand. That was pretty fun to watch.

How far did you throw it?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

How far did you throw it?

I was almost that guy.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Not sure where to post this since it's about medical marijuana. Looking forward to Life Brand or No Name pot.

Canada's largest pharmacy chain has formally applied to be a distributor of medical marijuana.

"We have applied to be a licensed producer strictly for the purposes of distributing medical marijuana," Shoppers Drug Mart spokeswoman Tammy Smitham told CBC News in an email Tuesday. "We have no intention of producing medical marijuana but we do want the ability to dispense medical marijuana to our patients in conjunction with counselling from a pharmacist."

The move is the next step in a logical progression for the chain, which earlier this year was looking into the possibility of entering the burgeoning business.

Ottawa is in the midst of updating the laws surrounding the drug, including possibly legalizing it in a limited fashion for recreational use.

The previous government prohibited people with a valid prescription from producing medical marijuana themselves, and instead required them to order it from a licensed producer, who would deliver it via the mail. In February, a judge struck down that law and gave Ottawa six months to update the rules.

Since August, medical marijuana users have been legally allowed to produce their own, but that too is largely a temporary measure.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/shop...uana-1.3820131

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Not sure where to post this since it's about medical marijuana. Looking forward to Life Brand or No Name pot.



http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/shop...uana-1.3820131

Me too

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Not sure where to post this since it's about medical marijuana. Looking forward to Life Brand or No Name pot.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/shop...uana-1.3820131

Pfffft... Clearly this is the perfect branding opportunity for President's Choice.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Reaper

Pfffft... Clearly this is the perfect branding opportunity for President's Choice.

"Yeah it's not the best weed out there, but for a family of four the savings are incredible!"

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Reaper

Pfffft... Clearly this is the perfect branding opportunity for President's Choice.

"It may taste a lot like smoking your bank statement...but it isnt. We promise. Also, dont check your bank statement."

[Anduril]

And suddenly both membership application and use of the PC Plus card/Shoppers Optimum card rises.

[Alpine Fisher]

Cant you all see this is a New World Order Plot to keep the masses stoned so they remain complacent in the destruction of our nation and freedoms
Oh God its happening already

[Knut]

Originally Posted by Alpine Fisher

Cant you all see this is a New World Order Plot to keep the masses stoned so they remain complacent in the destruction of our nation and freedoms
Oh God its happening already

You are a very good parody account.

[Senator Clay Davis]

No doubt, he does a very good job of blurring the line.