2021/2022 English Premier League

[Slava]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

I think the cup competitions are call your own foul.

It’s a little weird that there’s no VAR there. I’m not a big fan of VAR in general, but it just seemed weird to me.

[MegaErtz]

There's no VAR in the cups because you have a lot of lower league teams participating and hosting matches. It would cost a fortune to set up cameras in all of those little stadia. It is the same reason that there's no VAR in the current World Cup qualifying stage in CONCACAF.

[d_phaneuf]

I know that's the reason but I still think it's a bad one, just because var isn't available at Stockport or Port Vale etc. doesn't mean a game at old Trafford shouldn't use it.

[d_phaneuf]

The one complaint Klopp had that I agree with is they should have scrapped the two leg semis this year.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

The one complaint Klopp had that I agree with is they should have scrapped the two leg semis this year.

Klopp just likes to complain I think. The issue is, he barely rotates his squad, runs then hard and it’s next to impossible at this point in the schedule. But some players?

It’s surprising that they don’t go to five subs though. Like with Covid, games every couple days and those concerns it seems like an easy decision.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Saint-Maximin is the only Newcastle player worth a damn, but what a player he is.

[Slava]

I’ve only seen about 30 minutes of this, but Newcastle is just slicing these guys open and making this look easy, or is United a disorganized mess? Like Newcastle is brutal, so it can’t be that they’ve suddenly come around?

[devo22]

yeah no idea if Covid has an impact here, but United have been extremely poor today. First half was abysmal ... second half a bit better, but they've been in full survival mode in the last 10 minutes or so.

[Bagor]

That is the biggest crock of merde I've seen in a long time.

Norwich and Newcastle and DdG claws them to 4 points.
Two top poachers in Ronaldo and Cavani and barely anything of quality into the box.

Silver lining is Bruno is suspended for the next game.

No structure. Nothing. Hopeful aimless passes to noone in Particular. And Varane was struggling big time out there.

[Slava]

Well Spurs got robbed out of the win today. No way that Kane was offside and VAR somehow draws the line to make it the case. Unbelievable, really. And then Forster drops the ball and puts it in his own net and somehow that’s called back as a foul. It’s really ridiculous. What’s the point of VAR if it’s not intervening there, as it’s a goal for sure? Just an embarrassing display for the officials…again.

[Bagor]

Poor Spurs. Always robbed.

Someone explain to him how Var works. He still doesn't get it.?

And let's not mention that Kane should be serving a suspension.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Slava

Well Spurs got robbed out of the win today. No way that Kane was offside and VAR somehow draws the line to make it the case. Unbelievable, really. And then Forster drops the ball and puts it in his own net and somehow that’s called back as a foul. It’s really ridiculous. What’s the point of VAR if it’s not intervening there, as it’s a goal for sure? Just an embarrassing display for the officials…again.

I will give the benefit of the doubt on the keeper mistake. There was maybe enough contact from Spurs to justify it. However, that offside is a bad call. Even under the old, non-armpit rules

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Poor Spurs. Always robbed.

Someone explain to him how Var works. He still doesn't get it.?

And let's not mention that Kane should be serving a suspension.

Come on, this is a joke



VAR has been giving that as goals this year, Mike Riley said before the season

"Players will be given the benefit of the doubt this season as goals won't be ruled out for offside due to toenails and noses."

[Senator Clay Davis]

To be fair, he didn't say they wouldn't rule out for armpits...

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

To be fair, he didn't say they wouldn't rule out for armpits...

Its debatable where the line even is, looks like its somewhere between his mid tricep and arm pit

Which should mean allow the goal and that's what they've done all year

[d_phaneuf]

That's a horrible penalty by salah

[Matty81]

Some karma for Spurs maybe they seem to be flopping around like crazy right now son, hjoberg and Tanganga should be getting a yellow each every game for simulation and you've got that Emerson royal fella telling the ref it's a yellow against the other team after every whistle. Every time I watch them play I briefly think hjoberg has had his leg broken based on his reaction.

they need to harden TF up and quit whining about reffing and trying to draw fouls imo, they have the talent to win games without that crap and for me a good manager finally. That red they got awarded against palace was shocking, the first yellow was barely even a foul and then tanganga acted like he got hit by a truck when he got pushed in the chest to draw the second yellow

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Its debatable where the line even is, looks like its somewhere between his mid tricep and arm pit

Which should mean allow the goal and that's what they've done all year

Oh you have every reason to be aggrieved, I was mostly being a smartass. Even if it's his tricep or his arm pit or his pubes it's laughable to say without a doubt that he's offside.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Come on, this is a joke

I was referring to that guy's lack of understanding of the scope of Var when he was crying about Var not intervening to overturn the Forster foul.

Notwithstanding that Doherty jumped into him with zero idea where the ball was or zero intent to play the ball it has been clear from day one that VAR will only get involved where there is a clear and obvious error which was clearly not the case here.

What exactly does he think Var should have done there?

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Some karma for Spurs maybe they seem to be flopping around like crazy right now son, hjoberg and Tanganga should be getting a yellow each every game for simulation and you've got that Emerson royal fella telling the ref it's a yellow against the other team after every whistle. Every time I watch them play I briefly think hjoberg has had his leg broken based on his reaction.

they need to harden TF up and quit whining about reffing and trying to draw fouls imo, they have the talent to win games without that crap and for me a good manager finally. That red they got awarded against palace was shocking, the first yellow was barely even a foul and then tanganga acted like he got hit by a truck when he got pushed in the chest to draw the second yellow

Haha, Karma? I mean, are we seeing decisions based on what’s happening on the pitch now or just making sure that things are even and we like how players play the game?

To me, the Forster own goal was because he never caught the ball. It’s purely his mistake and there’s almost no collision with Doherty, and before anyone says it…any contact is not a foul. That absolutely should’ve been viewed by VAR and given as a goal. The ref got that wrong, plain and simple.

The Kane goal is frustrating for a couple reasons. First, we were supposed to be done with these kinds of calls, and no one is looking fat that thinks Kane is offside. So that’s the first issue. Just as important, if not more though, is that they drew that offside line in the wrong place. It’s halfway down Kane’s arm FFS, which is patently ridiculous. If he scored with that part of his arm there would be cries for handball. How you can use that and say he’s offside is just plainly a poor application of this technology.