Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Slava

I still want to know why the province has this?

That was asked, and this was the answer:

Q: Hi Just wondering how the Government of Alberta came to be in possession of a spare donair costume? Thank you

A: This costume was a prop for an advertising campaign and is no longer required by the department, Surplus Sales is offering it for auction, as we do for any of our less interesting assets, that are no longer required. Thank you for your interest in the Alberta Online Auction.

[Arsenal14]

Originally Posted by Robbob

That was asked, and this was the answer:

I think I saw on Twitter that it was for a distracted driving commercial but they ended up not using it.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Robbob

That was asked, and this was the answer:

dumb answer. they called it "less interesting"

I think it's awesomely interesting. Nice looking costume, too.

If I had the money, I'd buy it, drag it up, and counter protest at libraries.

[Fuzz]

The leading bidders are donair shops, so I guess they still see value.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

Affordability and utilities minister tasked to review Alberta's electricity system and pricing

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...cing-1.6911741

Alberta's premier says the affordability and utilities minister needs to improve power prices for consumers who are getting zapped in the pocketbook.

Minister Nathan Neudorf's marching orders, spelled out in a Wednesday mandate letter, ask him to study phasing out the default electricity rate that is driving up the cost of some consumer bills.

This is a good move, but the crickets in here are interesting. I also like the move to decentralize the health care system personally, but I totally understand the reticence and hesitancy posted by many in here on that move too- and those posters are correct- much caution should be taken.

I just think that the health care system was probably superior when each health region had authority on matters within their own purviews, but as mentioned there is no perfect system. As well, if the risk is that there is some further privatization, I think that is a risk worth taking and some privatization is worth considering but needs to be very properly managed (this part concerns me as I don't think the UCP can manage a lemonade stand much less a complex health care system).

[Swift]

The donair story was covered on The Guardian website today.

[MoneyGuy]

Maybe donair shops are more profitable than I thought.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Swift

The donair story was covered on The Guardian website today.

If you have ever been on the piss in the UK you will know how much the love a good Doner Kebab

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Swift

The donair story was covered on The Guardian website today.

Haha, saw that. My favorite was this paragraph, they missed a prime opportunity to say "and therefore the world", though.

In an interview with the CBC in 2015, the owner of a chain of donair shops in Halifax described the addition of lettuce as “sacrilegious”. But in Alberta – the highest per capita consumer of donairs in Canada (and probably the world) – the leafy vegetable has become an essential part of the recipe.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

If you have ever been on the piss in the UK you will know how much the love a good Doner Kebab

Then put another shrimp on the barbie!

[CliffFletcher]

Beef shwarma > donairs.

[Cain]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

This is a good move, but the crickets in here are interesting. I also like the move to decentralize the health care system personally, but I totally understand the reticence and hesitancy posted by many in here on that move too- and those posters are correct- much caution should be taken.

I just think that the health care system was probably superior when each health region had authority on matters within their own purviews, but as mentioned there is no perfect system. As well, if the risk is that there is some further privatization, I think that is a risk worth taking and some privatization is worth considering but needs to be very properly managed (this part concerns me as I don't think the UCP can manage a lemonade stand much less a complex health care system).

Agree it sounds like a good move, but understand the crickets as it is just a "let's look into this" kind of piece. Every government talks a lot, better to just wait and see what they actually try to enact before really reacting in my opinion. How many times have we heard about housing prices and the like...and then seemingly very little done about it. Hard to get all that excited this early.


As for AHS, I have very little faith in the UCP actually improving things as it mostly seems like they have an axe to grind vs being productive. I know a lot of people working/worked higher up there and it seems to be quite adversarial. But I guess, as above, hoping to be pleasantly surprised by any path they end up deciding on...but am not so confident. Have to just see how it plays out I guess.

[para transit fellow]

the bigger story about the Donair mascot

https://www.politicstoday.news/alber...rplus-auction/

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

dumb answer. they called it "less interesting"

I think it's awesomely interesting. Nice looking costume, too.

If I had the money, I'd buy it, drag it up, and counter protest at libraries.

They weren't calling the costume less interesting, they were saying 'just like our other (less interesting) assets, we're auctioning this"

And their normal stuff is definitely less interesting than this.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

This is a good move, but the crickets in here are interesting. I also like the move to decentralize the health care system personally, but I totally understand the reticence and hesitancy posted by many in here on that move too- and those posters are correct- much caution should be taken.

I just think that the health care system was probably superior when each health region had authority on matters within their own purviews, but as mentioned there is no perfect system. As well, if the risk is that there is some further privatization, I think that is a risk worth taking and some privatization is worth considering but needs to be very properly managed (this part concerns me as I don't think the UCP can manage a lemonade stand much less a complex health care system).

The pre-UCP centralized the health system, and now are reversing course. I see both actions as a waste of money, when the initial move was to save it. I honestly don't know if productivity was increased with centralization, but they would seem to indicate that it wasn't, by the reversal. Or the UCP is 'going to war' with the pre-UCP policies, which might be more likely. As with most things that the UCP do, this was not talked about during the election and is a big surprise, so I just don't know what the goals are.

As for looking into utilities costs, Kenney removing the cap is to blame there, but they won't admit it. Go back farther, and selling off utilities was a massive mistake.

Experiencing shellshock. It's been 40 years since a conservative has been in power in Alberta, although I enjoyed the antics of Ralph.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The pre-UCP centralized the health system, and now are reversing course. I see both actions as a waste of money, when the initial move was to save it. I honestly don't know if productivity was increased with centralization, but they would seem to indicate that it wasn't, by the reversal. Or the UCP is 'going to war' with the pre-UCP policies, which might be more likely. As with most things that the UCP do, this was not talked about during the election and is a big surprise, so I just don't know what the goals are.

As for looking into utilities costs, Kenney removing the cap is to blame there, but they won't admit it. Go back farther, and selling off utilities was a massive mistake.

Experiencing shellshock. It's been 40 years since a conservative has been in power in Alberta, although I enjoyed the antics of Ralph.

Sure, I mean, I agree, whatever. I'm more interested in what government actions are currently / going forward and fixing things. If mistakes were made just fix them / move on.

[Fuzz]

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith says restructuring Alberta Health Services (AHS) to place more managers in smaller communities will help to restore essential care in regional health centres.


Speaking to reporters after a Thursday appearance at an Edmonton Chamber of Commerce luncheon, Smith said "bad management" has led to disrupted regional health services, such as newly renovated operating rooms sitting unused in Brooks.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...913239?cmp=rss


Smith's solution to a lack of health professionals? More managers. Fiscal Conservatives should love this, right? This is the kind of out of the box thinking that will solve our crisis. Middle management. Maybe if I keep typing it, it will make more sense. Managers Managers Managers!

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...913239?cmp=rss


Smith's solution to a lack of health professionals? More managers. Fiscal Conservatives should love this, right? This is the kind of out of the box thinking that will solve our crisis. Middle management. Maybe if I keep typing it, it will make more sense. Managers Managers Managers!

Well hey, we'll have to give it at least 5 years - if not 10 - for these changes to rEaLlY pAy OfF!!!! No complaints allowed until then.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...913239?cmp=rss


Smith's solution to a lack of health professionals? More managers. Fiscal Conservatives should love this, right? This is the kind of out of the box thinking that will solve our crisis. Middle management. Maybe if I keep typing it, it will make more sense. Managers Managers Managers!

god
I hate them

Speaking to reporters after a Thursday appearance at an Edmonton Chamber of Commerce luncheon, Smith said "bad management" has led to disrupted regional health services, such as newly renovated operating rooms sitting unused in Brooks.

"If we had managers at that local facility making decisions for the community about what services should be provided in that community, I'm convinced they would find the people, they'd find the anesthesiologists. They'd find the staffing," Smith said. "That's the reason why you need more management closer to home at each individual hospital."

bunch of ####ing idiots.
yeah, some UCP supporting sycophant in smaller communities is going to magically find needed medical staff and the money to pay them.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

"If we had managers at that local facility making decisions for the community about what services should be provided in that community, I'm convinced they would find the people, they'd find the anesthesiologists. They'd find the staffing,"[/B] Smith said. "That's the reason why you need more management closer to home at each individual hospital."

Danielle Smith hasn't even talked to doctors. She doesn't talk to the AMA or the College. She just sits in a room with Jack Mintz and Mark Joffe and the three of them just drink ####ty coffee with their stinky breaths and kvetch to each other about the delusional merits of private healthcare, and how they can stick it to the federal Libs.

She is as useless as a wet fart in a paper bag.