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Old 05-30-2023, 09:43 AM   #1321
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You admit that there are a few bigots within the UCP.
You understand, presumably, that when a party forms government it selects from within it's membership (by convention sitting members) people to fill important government ministry roles. Those people that you assisted in voting in (the bigots) are now likely to fill some important ministry roles. Direct control over aspects of our day to day lives.

Do you not see how electing bigots here is a problem? Do you really not understand how your vote supporting the "non-bigot" (doubtful) within your riding are in fact also supporting the reality of more bigots filling important government roles?
Move over LaGrange! Jennifer Johnson is the person who’s shown she’s the most qualified for the role of Minister of Education!
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Rural Alberta is in for an even bigger world of hurt when it comes to healthcare now. Buckle up.
...and yet somehow, it will still be the NDP's fault when all those rural folks finally noticing their health outcomes getting worse
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Luckily I do not care what you think.
The 0 confirms it, and such a fitting name. Total waste.
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Yoho I hear you that you are UCP ride or die. But why are you so enamored with Smith. She squeaked out a leadership vote by being able to court a small percentage of the first round of voting and was helped by the ballot system in place. She ran a campaign where she lost seats and is easily the least likable premier I can recall among a huge portion of the voting populace. This is a province that for 50 years has overwhelmingly elected conservatives. If this is anything but a hollow victory I would be shocked.

This province is being led by rural Alberta and if you have ever spent time in rural Alberta you would realize why that isn't a good thing.
Can you expand on this? I love my home town. We have a great golf course built primarily by the community volunteers, we have an amazing arena built by the farmers, on land that was donated by a farmer. People who are able to help themselves, their community and get things done for the great good. Community clubs, Ag Societies, 4H groups: All cornerstones of rural Alberta that make it great. Knowing and assisting your neighbors, looking out for them and working together with them, much of this is lost in urban centers. These examples are just the tip of the ice berg.
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Did the person who supported the Russian invasion of Ukraine get elected? I can’t remember the name.
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Yes, with 67% of the vote.


Jesus, they both did. The one who has the husband that hardcore supports Russia is the same candidate that said people who have heart attacks deserve it. She still won by 10 000 votes
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If you don't appreciate being called a bigot, then don't vote for a party who nominates and elects bigots. It's a transitive property. You elected bigots, you are a bigot. There's not much to this. Doesn't matter what your reasons were, doesn't matter if you like your individual candidate, the result is that you've elected a group into power that aids and includes vocal bigots. Thus, you are a bigot.

You can decide whether that makes you an idiot. I think so.
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Because Smith is so aweful. If someone who has broken the law, lied steadily, and shown no competence to govern or make reasonable decisions can somehow convince people she is capable, then what hope does any future election hold? the electorate is either ignorant or satisfied with Smith. Those are both incredibly depressing possibilities. Besides, the next 4 years are going to disassemble a lot of what we CANADIANS hold dear. What will even be left to save?
She is awful I agree, but got news for you our PM has been acting like that for 8+ years now. If Canada is somehow surviving I’m sure Alberta will manage.
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1663557960545751040


Well, Janet has a right to gloat today, and Quito, well, he's going to have to much on a hat. At least one was worse than him!
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Long time Tory supporter. Did not vote this time due to Smith being crazy and I couldn’t force myself to vote NDP. However how do NDP supporters not feel like this is a victory, they cleaned house in Edmonton (as usual) and are slowly taking over Calgary. Come next election it’s looking like NDP majority with their trajectory.
Well, that's definitely glass half full. Weakest majority government ever in AB.

I think NDP supporters aren't unhappy that the NDP lost an election (that's happened all but one time) so much as horrified about the support someone like Smith got and the direction she will go for a full term.
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Can you expand on this? I love my home town. We have a great golf course built primarily by the community volunteers, we have an amazing arena built by the farmers, on land that was donated by a farmer. People who are able to help themselves, their community and get things done for the great good. Community clubs, Ag Societies, 4H groups: All cornerstones of rural Alberta that make it great. Knowing and assisting your neighbors, looking out for them and working together with them, much of this is lost in urban centers. These examples are just the tip of the ice berg.
The greatest irony of Alberta, is all of these things you listed that make rural Alberta great, are socialist and communist ideals. A group of people working together toward common goals and helping each other along the way.

But when it comes to voting, they vote for parties that are against all of this and whose focus is on profit over people and the individual over the collective.
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People with disabilities are very scared, homelessness is now a much more real threat. The Kenney government tried to mess with AISH and hurt a lot of vulnerable people, how are they supposed to not fear an even more right win government?
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I know several paramedics, on their side, things have become much better. They dont have to wait for hours on end in the hospital with patients and can get back to the core of their duties and respond to calls where they are needed. Did it fix the system, no, not by a long shot. But their presence in waiting rooms was doing very little on that end either.



Also, not all healthcare see the NDP as the only option for fixing the system, I know many nurses who voted UCP. Issues are not black and white like we all believe they are sometimes.
wow, that is the exact opposite I am hearing from my friends that are paramedics
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Old 05-30-2023, 09:52 AM   #1333
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If you don't appreciate being called a bigot, then don't vote for a party who nominates and elects bigots. It's a transitive property. You elected bigots, you are a bigot. There's not much to this. Doesn't matter what your reasons were, doesn't matter if you like your individual candidate, the result is that you've elected a group into power that aids and includes vocal bigots. Thus, you are a bigot.

You can decide whether that makes you an idiot. I think so.
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Challenge it then. You don't believe 50% of Ontario woke up thinking we weren't a group of unwashed bigots this morning? Call your friends and find out.
If there is one thing I don’t care about, it’s what random people in Ontario think about me.
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People with disabilities are very scared, homelessness is now a much more real threat. The Kenney government tried to mess with AISH and hurt a lot of vulnerable people, how are they supposed to not fear an even more right win government?
Conservative supporters - Duruss has a very valid point. Please ask yourselves how a UCP government that has not been friendly to this demographic is supposed to address this? These are real Albertans with real, immediate concerns.
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If there is one thing I don’t care about, it’s what random people in Ontario think about me.
Doubt it - I'm sure you do care what Justin Trudeau thinks.
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It's the same with racism. If you hang out with racists, you're a racist. Not because you are specifically doing the racism activities, but because you are accepting of the person who does do them. Because you don't stop the person from being or acting racist, you are in fact a racist too.

Bigotry is the same.
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Can you expand on this? I love my home town. We have a great golf course built primarily by the community volunteers, we have an amazing arena built by the farmers, on land that was donated by a farmer. People who are able to help themselves, their community and get things done for the great good. Community clubs, Ag Societies, 4H groups: All cornerstones of rural Alberta that make it great. Knowing and assisting your neighbors, looking out for them and working together with them, much of this is lost in urban centers. These examples are just the tip of the ice berg.
Agree with all of what you state and have spent plenty of time in rural Alberta.

I think that rural people, however, really need to do some soul searching when it comes to their unbridled racism, sexism, views on social issues, however. It's generally pretty disgusting.
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She is awful I agree, but got news for you our PM has been acting like that for 8+ years now. If Canada is somehow surviving I’m sure Alberta will manage.
Are most conservatives convinced Canada has gotten significantly worse over the last 8 years? People are still in the street protesting Trudeau weekly in Calgary lol
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- showering
- spelling
- reading
- knowing anything
- being kind to people

There i thought of a few more for you for free
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I know several paramedics, on their side, things have become much better. They dont have to wait for hours on end in the hospital with patients and can get back to the core of their duties and respond to calls where they are needed. Did it fix the system, no, not by a long shot. But their presence in waiting rooms was doing very little on that end either.



Also, not all healthcare see the NDP as the only option for fixing the system, I know many nurses who voted UCP. Issues are not black and white like we all believe they are sometimes.
I published a national paramedic journal for 30 years. I’m not sure who you’re hearing this from. Maybe a handful of urban paramedics? Rural paramedics are totally screwed…many have left the profession. Many urban paramedics I know have left the profession as well.
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