Game Thread: The 2016 US American Election

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

You know if people wanted more of a protest vote they should actually clean up both the senate and house of all the obstructionist politicians that do not actually want a functional government

They did. The GOP controls everything now. Obstructionism is over.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Wood

Is it setting in yet? Donald Trump is going to be President of the United States, holy ####

It is unbelievable really.

Where is Ashton Kutcher

[Boo Radley]

Originally Posted by GGG

It will be interesting what the republicans do now with all three houses. Do they actually have an agenda to put forth?

Repeal Obama care then what?

Repeal Obamacare.
Jail Clinton.
Ban same-sex marriage.
National Stop and Frisk.
Ban Muslims.
Build a wall.
Weaken the first amendment, the EPA, FDA...

Take your pick

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Wood

Is it setting in yet? Donald Trump is going to be President of the United States, holy ####

George W. Bush is looking pretty good right now, isn't he? People had no idea how much worse it could get.

[Kjesse]

Protectionism bought Trump a lot of votes. Get ready for a trade war.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

It's also about the media. They let Trump get away with all the awful things he said and did. They normalized the hatred and the vitriol and the violence, while repeatedly attacking Clinton for emails, all while ignoring that Trump is literally going on trail for fraud before the end of the calendar year. And until she backed out because of death threats, he was going to also go on trial for raping a 13 year old girl.

But they ignored all of that in favor of handling of emails.

The media helped Trump? How could you even argue this. Shillary got the debate questions ahead of time and we witnessed one of the saddest excuses for a "moderator" in action. The whole media kept on the narrative that she was the safe pick and she was ahead, you had to have blinders on to believe any of it. Obama sealed it for Trump really, by promising hope and making things worse.

Hillary's crimes don't end at emails bud, that's where they start. Her track record is much worse then Trumps, that's without even bringing into account her sexual predator husband. LOL the spin!

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

What media do you watch? There hasn't been a presidential candidate so loathed by the media and cultural establishment since George Wallace.

News coverage is free publicity, Roger Ailes was absolutely critical in exploiting that in Trump's favour.

Remember when he held that press conference to announce how great his new hotel was?

This is a new age. The sheer amount of media coverage was hugely influential in legitimising trump as a Candidate.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Everyone can sandbag on Trump, but this is what it is: An absolute protest vote indicating people are sick of Washington. A vote for Hillary is a confidence vote in the government to continue what it has been doing - Pretty much nothing. They have been a failure for greater than 12 years, perhaps 20 years.

A vote for Trump is not an indicator you are racist, saying that makes it clear you are a parrot, repeating rhetoric that someone in an office is paid to conjure. A vote for Trump can be for many reasons, but most importantly, you are probably sick of Washington.

Alberta basically went through a similar protest vote, and it will hopefully force the losing parties to rethink their approach. This whole situation may help fix both parties.

Except the NDP didn't run on an agenda of hate, segregation and environmental and corporate recklessness and protectionism.

A vote for Trump is desperate vote by uneducated people trying to find some sort grip on a job despite being unskilled and left behind.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

George W. Bush is looking pretty good right now, isn't he? People had no idea how much worse it could get.

Remember how we thought about Palin

[combustiblefuel]

This election is on it's death bed. She loses Wisconsin and the best she can finish is 268.

It's pretty well done folks.

The Lunatics are running the Asylum.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

News coverage is free publicity, Roger Ailes was absolutely critical in exploiting that in Trump's favour.

Remember when he held that press conference to announce how great his new hotel was?

This is a new age. The sheer amount of media coverage was hugely influential in legitimising trump as a Candidate.

Coverage isn't fawning though.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Weitz

People voted for Trump not because they are racist or any of that crap. You think 48 million people are racist and misogynistic enough to vote because of that? No.

They voted for Trump for the same reason Alberta voted for the NDP.

Not everyone who voted Trump is racist but everyone who voted Trump is supporting a racist and a sexist among other things.

The reason he will win is because of the people who hate Muslims, blacks, and Mexicans. 3 minorities Trump hates and has been vocal about. It's not a landslide victory if he wins and that'll be the difference without a doubt.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Acey

Clinton's margins in the popular vote are actually increasing. Now 1.1-1.3 points in her favour according to NYT

Not surprising. In a way, we may get a situation where the polls were not all that far off, but failed to account for inefficient vote distribution.

It also reveals that the US electoral system is broken. The GOP will control all three branches of government, having lost the national popular vote in two of them.

[Hemi-Cuda]

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

This election is on it's death bed. She loses Wisconsin and the best she can finish is 268.

It's pretty well done folks.

The Lunatics are running the Asylum.

New Hampshire

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by GGG

One hopeful thing is that trumps desire to be loved by celebrities should moderate his social policies. If you look back to his convention speech he had a pro LGBT line and only talked about abortion when directly asked about the debate. He is the most socially moderate republican that has been elected recently.

The problem is that I don't actually have any faith that he himself will be attempting to push any legislation.

The GOP run House and Congress will push bills to stop Obamacare, to repeal marriage equality, to hamstring the EPA, to cut taxes for corporations and billionaires, to cut funding for education, to privatize social security, to overturn Roe v Wade, to further limit campaign funding restrictions and allow even MORE money in politics, etc.

And Trump isn't going to do a single thing to stop any of it. He's not veto-ing those bills.

And he's going to put justice on the Supreme Court that will go along with those GOP choices.

I've said all along that this goes so far beyond just the person sitting in the White House.

[the_only_turek_fan]

I have Trump at 268.

He needs one of Michigan, NH, or Nevada.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Delgar

Protectionism bought Trump a lot of votes. Get ready for a trade war.

that's not a bad thing for the US. those trade deals are awful in their current state

[Weitz]

The death penalty continues its quiet but successful Election Day.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Boo Radley

Repeal Obamacare.
Jail Clinton.
Ban same-sex marriage.
National Stop and Frisk.
Ban Muslims.
Build a wall.
Weaken the first amendment, the EPA, FDA...

Take your pick

I hope they build the wall on our border. Hell, I'll even chip in to pay for it so Trump feels like it's a win for them.