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Old 05-10-2016, 01:05 AM   #1321
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Considering how massive this fire was, the fact that only 10% of Fort Mac was lost is absolutely astounding.
I'd like to know who came up with that number...
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:30 AM   #1322
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I'd like to know who came up with that number...
It says 85% saved here...Just below the "infrastructure funding" heading.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rona...574437?cmp=rss
I've heard 80-90% from different sources.
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Based on the helicopter flyover video I saw yesterday, the 80% destroyed number for Beacon Hill is too high. Looks like about 60% at most.
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:04 AM   #1324
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I'd like to know who came up with that number...
I think Notley had mentioned a specific number of structures in Fort Mac that were destroyed VS standing in a press conference.

I don't remember the exact quote but it was along the lines of "firefighters managed to save [X] of Fort Macs total [Y] structures including all essential infrastructure including hospitals and all operational schools"

Saving the essential services like the airport, schools, hospital really makes the difference in the "% saved" figure. Losing the airport or water treatment plant would have weighted the number much heavier then residential homes.
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Pat is an old friend of mine. Glad to hear he's getting a rest.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...on-shifts.html
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From the reddit thread.



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The Google crisis map is a few days old, but shows the majority of the damage.

https://www.google.org/crisismap/201...-mcmurray-fire
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I'd be a little curious to know what the rest of the city looks like and when people will be able to move into their houses, given that 90% of the city remains. Maybe most of the damage was done to residential structures, hence why so many neighbourhoods seem to have burnt down but the pictures and videos that I've seen make it look like the entire city burnt down. To me it sorta feels a little like media is starting to sensationalize the damage.

I've also heard that even some homes that are still standing will have to have the dry wall and carpeting ripped out because of the smell. Pretty unfortunate that even if your home escaped visible damage, it may not be livable for some time.
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Plus lots of the stuff that burned is sketchy - lots of potential toxic issues in cars and businesses. Ive heard they will be going house to house removing fridges and waste, all the water has to be flushed because the river has backed up into the water system after it was shut down, and of course lots of power to be restored.

It will be a long, long process.
I suspect there will be damage to building that are still standing, exterior eat damage, as well as internal water damage.

It will be a long, long process. Logistically, it will make 2013 and 2011 look like a walk in the park.
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From the reddit thread.



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That was incredible!

There is so more effort then just aiming a hose!
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Pat is an old friend of mine. Glad to hear he's getting a rest.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...on-shifts.html
That's awesome news! Pat Duggan is a great guy! He has the nickname of "the duggarnaut" on the fire department!

Not much of an update today, they had a bit of rain yesterday which helped knock down a lot of fires. The Fort McMurray members are finally getting rotated out for a much deserved four day break! Hopefully they don't have to pay for a drink for the rest of their lives!

This was the fire in Anzac the other day, not sure exactly what happened but at one point it got too dangerous and the firefighters had to evacuate the area.








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Pat is an old friend of mine. Glad to hear he's getting a rest.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...on-shifts.html
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“The hardest part was driving back . . . trying to get their as fast as I can,”
Gahddamnit Toronto Star. Spell check does not equal proof reading. These errors just pitch me out of the moment.
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Gahddamnit Toronto Star. Spell check does not equal proof reading. These errors just pitch me out of the moment.
Do they hire editors anymore?
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Anyone know how well the insurance companies are handling this? I hope they have enough staff and resources dedicated to their clients needs.
More than they ever get credit for among the general public. I'm biased as I work for an insurance company, but the reaction from my company has been amazing. They've announced that all claims associated with the fires (more than 50% of their policies in Fort Mac so far) will not affect rating or premiums or claims free discounts in the future. They've also extended the time period for payments and are waiving any NSF fees incurred on missed payments. As of yesterday morning, they've handed out more than $4m in emergency cheques to 1000 clients and the major events claims team has made over 2000 personal calls to clients checking on their wellbeing and encouraging them to put in claims if they haven't already and assisting them in that process.

None of this even touches on the fundraising efforts.
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More than they ever get credit for among the general public. I'm biased as I work for an insurance company, but the reaction from my company has been amazing. They've announced that all claims associated with the fires (more than 50% of their policies in Fort Mac so far) will not affect rating or premiums or claims free discounts in the future. They've also extended the time period for payments and are waiving any NSF fees incurred on missed payments. As of yesterday morning, they've handed out more than $4m in emergency cheques to 1000 clients and the major events claims team has made over 2000 personal calls to clients checking on their wellbeing and encouraging them to put in claims if they haven't already and assisting them in that process.

None of this even touches on the fundraising efforts.
Too bad it takes public awareness to get insurance companies to act decently. My mother got screwed by Manulife on my dad's life insurance policy last year. Stating that since it went from company to personal it was a new policy, and his condition that he passed from was therefore preexisting.
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Too bad it takes public awareness to get insurance companies to act decently. My mother got screwed by Manulife on my dad's life insurance policy last year. Stating that since it went from company to personal it was a new policy, and his condition that he passed from was therefore preexisting.
Please consult a lawyer if you haven't already
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More than they ever get credit for among the general public. I'm biased as I work for an insurance company, but the reaction from my company has been amazing. They've announced that all claims associated with the fires (more than 50% of their policies in Fort Mac so far) will not affect rating or premiums or claims free discounts in the future. They've also extended the time period for payments and are waiving any NSF fees incurred on missed payments. As of yesterday morning, they've handed out more than $4m in emergency cheques to 1000 clients and the major events claims team has made over 2000 personal calls to clients checking on their wellbeing and encouraging them to put in claims if they haven't already and assisting them in that process.

None of this even touches on the fundraising efforts.
Everybody hates insurance companies, until they need them.
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Too bad it takes public awareness to get insurance companies to act decently. My mother got screwed by Manulife on my dad's life insurance policy last year. Stating that since it went from company to personal it was a new policy, and his condition that he passed from was therefore preexisting.
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Everybody hates insurance companies, until they need them.
I think most people's experience would be the opposite.

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Shaq chimes in.





This caught me off guard in a good way. Maybe it's because I was expecting the standard celebrity climate change rhetoric. not sure. pretty moved by the gesture.
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