Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote, Formenton charged with sexual assault

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by traptor

I never said the statement was wrong. It's just a bad PR move that they portrayed Dube as a victime of mental health issues when he was about to be charged with gang rape.

Why do you keep saying I said things that i didn't say?

Any portrayal was done by the reader.

[liamenator]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Well there are plenty of organizations that have nothing to do with this, if you are so convinced of this feel free to choose one and zark off.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I think everyone understands this. Of course these accused rapists are suffering mental trauma.

This kind of feels like a so what? I don't understand why this needs to be highlighted in any way. By the Flames or anyone else really.

Because some have implied that the timing of dube needing mental help was convenient instead of legitimate

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

'Dillon is under the care of health professionals..........'

That's the part of the original statement that stands out to me. If that is indeed true, I don't see what is wrong with the statement.

If it is not true........then yeah, this is a huge problem.

Again, I'm open to any evidence either way. If the Flames are lying I'd really like to know. If they're not, maybe they could have left that part out, but I don't know why they had to if it's true.

I just can’t believe at all they didn’t know 100%. Hell I hate conspiracies but I have zero doubt they didn’t know. Zero.

But at the same time, zero doubt Dube has some mental health troubles. Big ones. That burden is a bitch. That you could have stopped it. I’ve been on the wrong end of that burden but with the same question.

Gross thing might be they were covering ass more than doing the right thing. Legally they are good but us populace don’t have a legal standard to box us in.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Dragging the team you cheer for through the mud for something they didn't do is bs and I am tired of reading it. This organization has been total class and always addressed anything that was a problem right away. There is nothing at all to indicate they did anything wrong here and to continue to slander the team over something Dube is is fn crap! People look for any reason to get the pitchforks out, be better.

You are constantly on the defence and it's just a little crazy. While I get the hope that the Flames can do no wrong, just look at the optics. I mean, the Flames CEO's son was involved in the investigation.

Talking with people at work today, and they were disgusted that the Flames made that statement. It's on the news. It's on social media. The Flames are being torn apart.

While I feel more and more that the teams we cheer for should not be a reflection of our personality, I simply hope the team I do cheer for holds itself to the highest standards possible. That does not make me a bad fan or somebody who should just go find some other team to cheer for.

I'm not dragging my team through the mud. They jumped in it themselves.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Dragging the team you cheer for through the mud for something they didn't do is bs and I am tired of reading it. This organization has been total class and always addressed anything that was a problem right away. There is nothing at all to indicate they did anything wrong here and to continue to slander the team over something Dube is is fn crap! People look for any reason to get the pitchforks out, be better.

I agree, the organization did very well in handling the Peters situation. They haven't done anything to make me believe otherwise.

The organization supports its players and coaches, and I doubt they could've thrown Dube under the bus because of what amounted to rumors at the time. As soon as the nature of Dube's leave was known/published, the organization addressed it.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Any portrayal was done by the reader.

Yeah thats kind of what public relations is.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Let’s maybe give them more than a few hours to terminate a legally binding contract. You can’t really just terminate it right away. There will be lawyers involved from the Flames, the NHL, and the NHLPA. This is not something they can just snap their fingers and do.

Give them some time to work it out. I’ll be shocked if all 5 players don’t have the contracts terminated soon but it won’t be immediately.

They have known this was a possibility for a long time, and have had days since news broke of 5 players asked to surrender that they should have known it was now a strong possibility. Not having this ready to go shows they are either completely incompetent or willfully ignorant to what has been going on.

Tell him you are putting him on unconditional waivers for the purposes of contract termination, stop paying him and let him file a grievance with the union.

What is the worst case scenario, you are forced to pay him out in the end.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by traptor

I never said the statement was wrong. It's just a bad PR move that they portrayed Dube as a victime of mental health issues when he was about to be charged with gang rape.

Why do you keep saying I said things that i didn't say?

Where did they portray him as a victim?

[Tuco]

This is frickin wild.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Where did they portray him as a victim?

By saying he was taking a leave for mental health reasons.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by traptor

By saying he was taking a leave for mental health reasons.

My question stands

[Tuco]

Broken link.

[gvitaly]

^ you don't have to be a victim to admit you need help.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by traptor

By saying he was taking a leave for mental health reasons.

That is what he did! Wtf more do you want? Weree they supposed to say that there was some people on the internet guessing Dube was eventually going to be charged so they are granting him a leave of absence? That would be stupid.
People are just looking to start the lynch mob here over something totally unfounded.

[Ped]

I have no idea if the Flames knew anything before the statement or not. But if you truly believe they did, how on earth can you cheer for this team?

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Ped

I have no idea if the Flames knew anything before the statement or not. But if you truly believe they did, how on earth can you cheer for this team?

I’ve had trouble cheering for them long before this so who knows what the hell is wrong with me.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by fotze2

I’ve had trouble cheering for them long before this so who knows what the hell is wrong with me.

You’ve got a soul.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

That is what he did! Wtf more do you want? Weree they supposed to say that there was some people on the internet guessing Dube was eventually going to be charged so they are granting him a leave of absence? That would be stupid.
People are just looking to start the lynch mob here over something totally unfounded.

They could of made the same non-controversial statement every other team made.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Probably every team in the league, probably.

Probably not.