[ECF] Carolina Hurricanes [MET1] vs Florida Panthers [WC2] Panthers win 4-0

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Barkov with big big props for Chucky as a player and person. Called him a huge addition that is felt throughout the entire organization.

Somewhere, Huberdeau is making a sad pikachu face.

[Beninho]

Glad Brad decided to cheap out on Tkachuk for all of his amazing UFA signings. Well done Brad, you played yourself and left this team in the ####

[dino7c]

Calgary and Florida had the exact same points in the last 20 games...Flames didn't trend down all season

Pittsburg lost their last two games to Chicago and Columbus...Panthers didn't exactly kick the door down like is being suggested

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by AC

We'll see.

I have it on good authority Adin Hill is playing with a hernia and isn't even sure if he'll be able to play in the Finals.

Not all hernias are equal.

I know a guy with a hernia who hasn’t had the surgery and has been playing with it for years

[Paulie Walnuts]

If you want to discuss injuries we also had Tanev taped together for the majority of the season and had our best transition defenceman outright miss the season.

Injuries happen.

The Panthers are riding a all time goaltending performances with key contributor's contributor's at clutch times. It's not like they are blowing teams out.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It's why lots of people still thought the Flames could do damage if they snuck in too...the underlying numbers support that they were better than their record indicated.

HAHA

lol

Our lineup was not going to suddenly turn into what Florida has going for them. Zero chance especially with Sutter behind the bench.

[Flamesfan05]

Hopefully Markstrom can watch Bob and says #### I can do that

Honestly I thought Bob was dead before this playoff

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by zamler

HAHA

lol

Our lineup was not going to suddenly turn into what Florida has going for them. Zero chance especially with Sutter behind the bench.

Flames or not...most teams would be hard to beat with mid .900s goaltending

You also need some luck...post away from being out in 5 games, multiple saves. Tied up game 7 with the goalie pulled after a missed EN.

Hockey is a FINE line

[drewtastic]

Tkachuk
Bennett
Lomberg

…Jagr…

[Flamesfan05]

The Panthers has a hot goalie

But they still have most of their major pieces, mainly Barkov and Ekblad and got a major upgrade in Tkachuk for Huberdeau


The Flames lost Johnny, their main piece and the new guys played like ####

They are not the same

[Paulie Walnuts]

Flames also has more wins than Montreal in 2021 when they rode a hot goalie to the finals pulling off a bunch of upsets.

It's ok to admit a not very good team is being carried by a great goaltending performance.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Not all hernias are equal.

I know a guy with a hernia who hasn’t had the surgery and has been playing with it for years

Yeah, this guy is saying he is going to play game 4+ but can't play in the finals next week? Seems odd

Who is he Mike Smith with a delayed injury

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

What you're missing in your season-wide comparisons is the massive nosedive Florida took in November and December, due to substantial injuries to Barkov and Ekblad at the same time.

If look at month-to-month, you'd see Calgary spiked in October but then stayed at pretty much the same levels (trending down) throughout the rest of the season. Florida, on the other hand, was a much better team for most of the season, but spiked downward significantly during the injuries I mentioned above.

Agreed!

And the other thing

PDO doesn’t crater you and it’s not a measure of luck

Good D and goaltending boost sv%
Good offense boosts shooting percentage

Get those and you have a high PDO

By playing well, not by chance

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

What you're missing in your season-wide comparisons is the massive nosedive Florida took in November and December, due to substantial injuries to Barkov and Eblad at the same time.

If look at month-to-month, you'd see Calgary spiked in October but then stayed at pretty much the same levels (trending down) throughout the rest of the season. Florida, on the other hand, was a much better team for most of the season, but spiked downward significantly during the injuries I mentioned above.

A little but probably not as major as you're making it seem.

First 21 Games:
Florida: 23 Points
Flames: 21 Points

2nd Quarter 20 Games:
Florida: 17 Points
Flames: 25 Points

3rd quarter 20 Games:
Florida: 24 Points
Flames: 21 Points

Final 21 Games:
Florida: 28 points
Flames: 26 points

In the last 20 games of the seasons heading into the Playoffs both teams had 26 points. Really when you look at how "hot" they were coming into the playoffs they were playing at the same pace.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

The comments torching the Flames are brutal....

But it's like people forgot that Tkachuk asked out.

Florida still offered the best package, that can't really be debated.

Obviously it goes back to the bridge deal negotiation, and even further back to the Canucks ####ing up their pick.

But rubbing it in the Flames noses for the trade is a little unfair.

Flames first choice was always keeping their star player. He wasn't interested.

I really hope this team comes out with a massive chip on its shoulder next season, from the top down. A lot of guys written off with a lot to prove.

The "cancer" is gone. No more excuses.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by zamler

HAHA

lol

Our lineup was not going to suddenly turn into what Florida has going for them. Zero chance especially with Sutter behind the bench.

NOBODY. And I mean NOBODY saw Bobrovsky putting up a .935 in the playoffs.

That is the biggest reason for the difference in their regular season to playoff play. They had benched Bob for Alex Lyon to start the playoffs and were down 3-1.

Tkachuk put up points in the regular season too, but those goals are more timely now and more important because of Bob holding down the other end of the Fort.

Bob and Markstrom both have matching .907 save percentages over the last three seasons. I would have thought either going crazy with a .935 in the playoffs would have been equally unlikely.

People can scoff all they want but getting hot goaltending to go on a run is not some new phenomenon. Both teams had similar great underlying stats that were cratered a bit by goaltending, and now Florida has a hot goalie an look unbeatable.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Suppose Tkachuk doing the Yakupov celebration is a bit more acceptable in this instance

Well, there’s a difference between scoring a goal that sends your team to the cup finals and a goal that tied a game late in an early season game

[Paulie Walnuts]

I bet what Huberdeau and Weegar are thinking tonight where was this Bob in the playoffs for us???

[zamler]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Flames or not...most teams would be hard to beat with mid .900s goaltending

You also need some luck...post away from being out in 5 games, multiple saves. Tied up game 7 with the goalie pulled after a missed EN.

Hockey is a FINE line

You can cherry pick moments all day, Panthers just beat the #1, #4 and #2 team.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

NOBODY. And I mean NOBODY saw Bobrovsky putting up a .935 in the playoffs.

That is the biggest reason for the difference in their regular season to playoff play.

Tkachuk put up points in the regular season too, but those goals are more timely now and more important because of Bob holding down the other end of the Fort.

This is all I am saying...his own team benched him so you guys can save the I told you so's. This is something they didn't even see and only put him in when Lyon blew it (after saving them in the reg season)